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TudorRose
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In light of recent events I thought I'd have a look round and see what rules or advice I could find for hire boaters on the broads and was amazed to find very little.

This I found in Barnes Terms & Conditions:-

On no account may you:
(a) Tow or be towed by, other cruisers unless with professional assistance.
(b) Cruise after dark (your boat is not equipped or insured for night navigation).
(c) Permit your boat to be taken out to sea
(d) Permit your boat to take part in any race.

Nothing about keeping to the right, overtaking etc.

I appreciate that this may be in a manual when you board your boat but wouldn't it be useful for hirers who may be unsure on certain points to be able to read this before they even leave home, thus arriving confident & prepared for their holiday.

How about Forum members write their own and publish it here as a download.

Sue  Confused

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May-15-2007 @ 11:51 AM                           Permalink
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Hello Sue

What a good idea!  However I find that all information needed is already available as a download from th BA website in form of the Navigation Byelaws 1995.  It is a pity that more folk are either unaware of the laws under which they are governed - or choose to ignore them Frown .

BA Navigation Byelaws 1995

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May-15-2007 @ 12:33 PM                           Permalink
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I think the BA rules needs to be shortened a bit for people who hire craft, as they would not read all that !!

Just as Sue has done.

the most important 10 rules in easy to read format

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May-15-2007 @ 12:40 PM                           Permalink
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Thanks AncientMariner,

I have looked at those before and while all navigation laws are there I could not find anything in specific relation to Hire Boats. Also, it is a bit stuffy & official.

On the Downloads of this site there is also a first timers guide. I thought this was very good but by the time I got to the end I was laughing so much that as a first time boater I think I would have forgotten some of the serious points.

What I thought would be good was a guide stating the laws and also views on unsociable behaviour, hints & tips, which was written in a user friendly format.

Anyone else agree?

Sue

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May-15-2007 @ 12:43 PM                           Permalink
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HI Sue,i agree with Acient Mariner, but also feel that some people just view the Broads as a simple holiday destination, say like going to the coast or Spain,we all hear about the tragic accidents that befall holiday makers year in and out, Gas Boilers killing with fumes,idiots on scooters knocking people over, people carried away by tides etc.Most just dont think it will happen to them,or being the great British public are very trusting to others,we expect our accomodation to be up to BS standards, but its not allways the case, abroad or at home,if you was to go to say,Scarborough,would you be aware of the tides etc, i know its down to the individual to find out these things, but in all honesty i bet a very small percentage of people read the boats captains manuals, they just want to be off enjoying the holiday, i must admit i never thought of the Broads being a potential killer,and if it wasnt for the generosity of others giving advice,well i think we would have many more accidents,in summary its down to a mixture of common sense and not being afraid to ask,by the hirer and good instruction and reliable maintainence from the yards that hire..sorry off my soapbox now,lol Wink

Jack Union.

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May-15-2007 @ 12:47 PM                           Permalink
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Hi Jack Union,

You hit the nail on the head when you said few people probably read the boats captains manuals because they want to get off and enjoy their holiday.  That was my reason for a guide from the Forum which they could read and digest before they even got to their boat.

Sue

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Guilty as charged on my first hire, couldnt wait to get out and about. Only found the boats guide 2 days before we were due to get back.
Wonder if the link to this forum could be included in the paperwork when first booking with hire companies.
that way people could get a feel for things before even leaving home.
I know i would have a look if it was me

Pete.
I love to go boating because it gives me something to do while I'm not doing anything.

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Maybe this is soemthing the Norfolk Broads Forum could print as a flyer / leaflet for all boat hirers, handed out to the boat yards.

it could include ads ( to pay for the leaflet)
offer advise etc etc, something for a boater to read / browse ???

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hi' an interesting thread, i have just downloaded the BA navigation byelaws 1995, all 40 pages of it. shall read it with interest.......cheers noddy

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I think Brian's is an excellent idea.

The boatyards could then send a flyer out with the booking confirmation. And local businesses get the benefit of people knowing what and where they are before they arrive.

Or if not ads, maybe a sponsor?

Sue

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