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Hi All

There was a meeting of the Ludham Archive Group this evening and a couple of questions came up that we cannot answer. I wonder if any members can help with this. The questions are:

1. Where is Bargate? We think it might be part of Barton Broad. Does anyone know.

2. Does anyone know which mill is shown in the photograph? Any information you may have about the odd looking boat would also be much appreciated. I know the name of the photo suggests that this is Goodwin's Mill, but I know for certain that this is wrong. Goodwin's Mill was an unusual clockwise mill and this one is not.

Thanks for your help.

Nigel
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Oh dear, that mill seems to have fallen over. Try this version.


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Hi Nigel

I think that Bargate Water is either another name for, or part of, Surlingham Broad ..... I stand to be corrected if I am having one of my blonde moments though!!  dunce

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You're quite right, Carol. Martin George refers to Bargate Broad as the part of Surlingham Broad which is open to navigation.

Bill Saunders

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I suspect the confusion with Barton is as a result of Pennygate staithe at Barton turf.  Bargate water is certainly that area of reed beds and narrow waterways to the west of Surlingham Broad.  If you look at old pre WW1 maps you will find that it was much more of an open expanse of water.

As to the boat in the photograph I am not sure but something very similar was used an a illustration of the journeys of a clerical gentleman in the late 1800’s which were published at the beginning of the 20th century.  As to the mill it clearly is a drainage pump judging by the outfall and what appears to be the 45 degree shaft leading to the wheel which is just out of shot.  It’s very much a guess but it might just be Langley Mill, more likely if the two halves of the question are related.

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Here is a map from THE BROADS BOOK,1975 Edition.

BOF - Clive


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Carol, Bill and Bill

Thank you for your very informative replies. This is very helpful.
I wonder if anyone has a photograph of Langley Mill for comparison?

Nigel
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The OS Explorer map, 040, The Broads, shows Bargate ajaceant to The Outmeadow. Those who take the "short cut" approaching Brundall from Reedham direction across Surlingham  will find that Bargate is the first expanse of water encountered after a short chug along the dyke.

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Thanks also to Clive and Trevor. That seems to have Bargate sorted.

Nigel
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As for the mill I was wondering about this

http://www.norfolkmills.co.uk/WindmillsD/buckenham-ferry-drainage.html

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