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JennyMorgan
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Perhaps, Antares, you aren't aware that 'pikey' is a racist term, and offensive to some. However, I agree with the principle of your posting.

Worth reading:
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/5121/patrin.htm

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Thanks for that link JM - I'll p.m. you...

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Danny, I hope that you find it interesting.

Jenny Morgan,
Being the name of my boat and the generic name applied to the flag atop of a Norfolk Wherry mast, unique to Broadland. Now you know!

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Pikey, Diddicoy...

Yorkie (thats me BTW), Tyke...

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Paddy,

who cares?! All this PC stuff is madness!IMHO!

So many utterly ridiculous stories about this sort of thing appear in the paper every day...all about the "words" we shouldnt use! We cant even tell schoolkids that they're not doing well in a particular topic, or that they have "failed" an exam. This is exactly the sort of madness that causes a lot of the probs we have with kids behaviour and attitudes today.

If it wasn't for our Mums (who feel its a bit late in life for them to move abroad), Mike and I would leave this country ( and the Broads) I'm sorry to say.

Its gone to the dogs (oops, is that "Doggist" or something?) Gasp


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quote:"......
'pikey' is a racist term
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As is "Water Gypsy", a point that was made to our dear friend in response to the first draft of the accursed Bill.

But yes, David, your point is well made.

(BTW, I am rather looking forward to an impending court appearance to give evidence against one of our local scumbags whom we caught in the act)

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WELL SAID KAREN,I FOR ONE AM FED UP WITH LIVING IN A LILLY LIVERED LIBERAL NANNY STATE!!!!One of the only things that keeps me sane is my annual/18 monthish week away from it all on a boat on the broads and now the DEGENERATE SCUM are trying to impose themselves there!!WHERE THE HELL ARE THE PARENTS OF THESE SO CALLED HUMANS???I am only 36 years old and i can remember being scared witless because a policeman caught me riding without bikelights and the trouble i might be in....1 was 13!!!!!!!26 years ago!!!I have 2 girls aged 8 and 4 and the one thing we try to instill in them is respect and manners...so far they are doing ok!1 solution may be to bring back"NATIONAL SERVICE"in some degree?Be rest assured the scrottie little plebs would think twice about doing stunts like this if they were actually punished for it and i think a few early morning revelle's followed by a ten mile run may make them think twice??? oh no there goes the blood pressure alarm but i am fuming!!!!!

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In this case, Karen, it isn't P.C., it's racist, plain and simple. And, as I have said, offensive to members of the Romany race.



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I can't quite decide whether this is all heading rather OT or not so I'll make just this one comment on the subject rather than cause the thread to drift further.

Essentially though I agree completely with Karen (not for the first time) and Simon W.  My wife and I are 30 and we've so far chosen not to have children.  My wife wants them, I don't.  Not because I actually don't want to have kids but because I lived in a cr*ppy area of Dundee for 8 years and the creatures I witnessed there totally changed my perception of children.  Goodness knows, once upon a time I wanted to be a teacher.  Now my wife and I are just staggered at the what kids can get away with now.  They know they can away with more or less anything so they do.  Like Simon W my wife and I feel that even though we're still young we grew up in a different world.

A friend of mine is a teacher in Canada (her home country).  The UK, due to the shortage of teachers over here, has been doing huge recruiting compaigns for years to attract Canadian teachers but she tells me that British schools and schoolchildren have such an awful reputation that it's become something of a joke amongst her colleagues - kind of like the equivalent of German WWII soldiers being sent to the Russian front.

Well we've brought it on ourselves, completely and utterly.  And what's more, now that we can't recruit teachers or police and our yob culture has become legendary across Europe, we continue to refuse to learn from our mistakes when pretty much everyone can see what needs to be done to solve it.

Anyway, that's my bit!  Smile   Please carry on.

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Peter, you are absolutely right. I think it's also fair to suggest that the chances that the perpetrators of this gross act of wanton vandalism were not Romany people. Scumbags, Toerags, call them what we like, but please lets not implicate an already much maligned and persecuted racial group.

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Aaaahhh Bless um! I must remember to have a whip round for um next time they come round our way stealing the slates of the barn roof!!!!! tounge-in-cheek

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These "ne'er-do-wells and scumbags" are someone's children.  For those on this forum whose kids have turned out just fine, give yourselves a well earned and well deserved pat on the back - parenting is the most difficult job in the world.  Do you always know where your teenagers are, what they're doing and with what sort of crowd they might be mixing?  If your answer to that is, "Yes" then you'd better wake up and smell the coffee.  Part of being a teenager is being secretive.

Is there no-one on this forum who remembers the mischief they got up to as kids?  No, of course you didn't go around committing arson, but then the hardest drug you may have encountered then was probably Cherry Linctus.  These youngsters have a wretched time not to have chosen to grow up in.

The rot sets in as soon as they perceive themselves to be failures.  The state education system is perfectly designed to alienate kids from any sort of normality.  A child who has learned not to value himself is incapable of learning to value anything else or to adopt someone elses's set of values which will feel alien to him.

These kids are wholly wrong to have done what they did.  Their actions are inexcusable.  What may well have started out as a prank has gone very badly wrong and could so easily have been life-threatening.

These incidents will increase in frequency until their root causes are fathomed and remedied.  Would they not have done what they did if the fear of punishment were greater?  They would.  When you perceive that you have nothing to lose then YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE.  

I speak as an ex-headteacher and one who has been the victim of mindless vandalism.

"There are old pilots.  There are bold pilots............."

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