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Japonica
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Totally agree with you JM,
except I would have cut the parents wedding tackle off to stop the little b*****s being born in the first place. Its about time something is done about this mindless wanton desctruction taking place, forget the security issue, educate parents on moral values first!
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Hi,

Just heard on Anglia that the four youths, aged 16 - 20, have all been arrested and then released on Police bail. Where will they be tonight? Causing mayhem somewhere no doubt.

Glad no one was injured

Gary

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its certainly true that kids learn by example, if peers or parents show challenging or antisocial behaviour traits, the chances are very high that the youngsters will follow.

The problem is that with the new 'children first' laws, which cover youths up to the age of 18, you cannot physically restrain them if they force there way out of the home at night, even if you happen to know they intend to comit a crime.
As much as a pressure mark from a finger caused by gripping a teenagers arm or leg and you risk being arrested yourself. the law says you should call them to deal with such problems, obviously written by someone who has never had to deal with such a situation first hand.

A friend who fostered children for many years gave up for this very reason when this law was introduced and enforced by her local social services, it made the job a very tough one with a very fine line to be toed, and the very reason I have never fostered older children and teenagers.

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Hi Julia it just shows how the "law is an ass" we learnt as kids to respect peoples property and the rules and laws of the time but the current laws restricting kids being hit by parents and the like are stupid in my view not that i condone the irresponsable hitting or abuse of children this is a NO NO but the odd tap never hurt me and it made me think before doing anything deemed wrong at the time. the corpral punisment being stopped in schools was also a big mistake im sorry but saying to a youth dont do that young man its wrong means nothing to 99% of kids today .........phew   vented

have a nice day all the best Dave

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latest update episode 2
Just got off the phone talking to a friend at Richardsons - apparently last night a large number of cars on the carpark belonging to customers had the windows smashed & various things from inside stolen, including the seats!

I wonder what will happen tonight?

Phil & Shirl
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whilst on the subject of not only the fire but cars being damaged.when i went into the office to book in i noticed a sign on the wall {car parking £8.00}  {secure car parking £12.00}.being the take no chances type i opted for the secure parking.was then told to take the car to a large hanger.so took the car in the hanger and noticed lots of signs saying cars parked at owners own risk??? now i dont get that one and have yet to take the matter up with them or maybe ive missed the point??? Question

cheers/robbie
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And when you do call the police, if they actually come out while its still possible to identify the offenders, they too are so tied up with rules and regulations, its very very unlikely that any action will result. You need a concrete case, hard evidence, witnesses etc and thats if the copper concerned is able/willing/permitted to take some action and undertake all the paperwork. As I understand it,when attending an incident,  they are encouraged to take the softer option of talking to people and diffusing the situation. Well it certainly semed that way when we had those problems and threats to us and our boat the other week...They (police) seem as if they are prepared to (or have to)ignore the offences that have resulted in the call for police to attend in the first place, and just avoid any further trouble.

The "lowlife" know all this too well!

So, theres no real deterrent and they know they are likely to get away with it. Plus of course, the more times they ARE caught, the more help they get as "serial offenders" and the more lenient the treatment.

We are on very slippery slope to a total lack of order...

GRRRRRR! to say the least!

And as for the situation with children, fostering etc, it certainly seems that we are tied up in knots there too. Bring back discipline! - in schools as well as in homes. Too many people, IMHO, put all forms of discipline under the banner of abuse - a  big mistake I believe. But then this moves us on to another debate, and one probably too controversial and too far removed from and Broads related topic...

Sorry for the rant...

Karen

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Certainly the Wroxham yards also have their share of troubles from Yobs, a large gang were congregating at the rear of Royalls and racing their cars up and down the lane approaching Brinkcraft.

Some of the drivers looked very young to be behind the wheel, and it rather looked like the older ones where teaching the kids to drive down there.

During the night we were aware of someone prowling around the yard during the small hours as our dog was constantly waking and barking at the voices, which is unusual for her, shes normally quiet and very well behaved. for our own security we decided not to challenge whoever it was, personal safety is always more important than damage to property which can be replaced IMHO, and again if we had let our dog out to defend us, which she would have done, and she did nip a yob, it could cost her her life.

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A bit harsh that Julia?
I,ve been known to stumble back to our boat in Wroxham in the early hours,certainly wouldn,t appreciate being nipped by a dog at the end of a night out? Playful
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here we go again just got back in from chasing some kids 13 - 14 yr olds as they decided it was a good evening for running over the cars parked outside including ours god give me strength!!!!!

have a nice day all the best Dave

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Steve I think you have misunderstood me, my dog would only attack someone if they were showing physical agression towards us, or had invaded our home such as during a break-in as an act of protection over us, so to do this at the boatyard, they would have had to gained forceful entry to the Boat. Some members did meet Zoe last week down at the WRC, shes a Labrador cross, and a big softy, I dont think any member is missing any fingers from the experiance lols   tounge-in-cheek Playful Wink

Julia

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