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Casper
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I am beginning to develop a new pet hate, fishermen (or fisher people) fishing using poles which seem to stretch out for ever into the river, especially when they do it on bends. These things even seem to be mounted on rollers to make it easier to reach further.

We had to dodge several over the weekend, at one point by dodging a pole we upset a sailey a real lose lose situation.

Alan & Gill

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Jul-10-2006 @ 9:14 PM                           Permalink
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Alan,

You have my sympathy there

Avoiding a pole and running into a saily

No winning is there Playful

BTW What is that thing whirling around on Your quay at work by the bow of the Alert.

Looks like some kind of wind driven device

Rod

You mean the other Starboard then...

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I must be the devil's own advocate! I'm an angler, I sometimes sell double glazing, I sail a yacht, I'm a local and I support Norwich City! Arghhhhhhhhhh!

But us anglers are quite capable of moving our poles, but we might leave it 'till the last moment before moving them. Don't worry, we will move them, eventually, but we just might not hurry, they won't catch fish whilst not in the water.

However, unless you need to run along the bank, dodging the tide for example, we would appreciate it if you would keep out of our way. Our poles might cost several thousand pounds so we won't risk breaking them, we move them, if we have to.

Me, I can't see the logic of pole fishing on a tidal river but fashion is fashion. A rod and a reel, that is real angling!!

Jenny Morgan, the Oulton Bard!

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I enjoy a spot of fishing, and would have to agree that a rod and reel is proper angling.  I often think when I see some of the poles in use these days, that there`s often the chance to fish from the opposite bank, and use a shorter, more sensible rod!! Evil Grin   tounge-in-cheek Tinhat

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Alan, maybe these people with the huge poles are trying to compensate for something?  Playful  Smile

If it's a choice of hitting the rods or compromising other river users under way, I would chose to hit the rod. They are extremely expensive apparently so I would have thought the owners would be rather sharp at shifting them out of the way? If not, they only have themselves to blame IMHO.

I would add, however, that given enough river room I always navigate as close to the opposite bank as I can so as not to disturb the anglers wherever possible.

That system kinda screws up though if they're on both banks...lol!  Smile

John

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I only fish rarely, but likewise I go out of my way to cause minimum disturbance for anglers whenever possible. But poles are a serious problem. Partly because many anglers seem reluctant to move them, but there is another problem on many waterways (although not generally the Broads. I also cycle, and often cycle along riverside bridleways and canal towpaths (only where it is legal to do so). An angler with a rod is not a problem, but those with poles will often feed them back across the path without looking behind them. I have several times almost been knocked off my bike by  poles shoved straight into the path of my bike. It is a simple matter to look behind, so why don't they?

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Oh dear, stinkies v sailies, now boaters v fishers! What if you are both!!!???;p

Well.... Mike fishes, not seriously, just as a bit of a pastime when we are moored up on the Broads. He has a pole and a rod and reel, and has had some luck with both...

He pays for his fishing licence and enjoys his bit of fun. He has to sit on the edge of the river to fish, where else? but observes all the rules and will of course give way to a mooring boat. When we are the ones on the boat he always goes around the fisherman whenever possible.

That said, his pole isnt one of those really enormous ones, and I agree there shoud be some give and take... as roya has said many times, the Broads is there for everyone to enjoy...

So, are the fishers with the big poles getting the rest of the guys a bad name? Smile

Karen

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I think you've hit the nail on the head there Karen. On the whole I find little problem with anglers, until you combine a long pole with the reluctance to move it, or moving it with no thought for what's behind. I generally fingd it easy to cone to friendly accommodation with anglers over moorings (and we often end up sharing a beer), but a pole seems to distance people from the problem or sonmething and they seem more reluctant to move it (or at least some of them do). And there's the additional problem I've already referred to of poles across bridleways, which is quite simply dangerous.

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To avoid this drifting, I do try very hard to steer clear of rods, poles, sailies, little kids and floating reeds, but sometimes the choices become compromises, dodge the pole and get into a close quarters situation, it would help perhaps if they had flags on the ends, say on a vertical attachment 2ft high and perhaps shorter ones spaced out every few feet along the length, perhaps strobe lights would also help to see them.

Do they catch bigger fish with these poles, most fish I have seen caught on the Broads have been rather on the small size.

Alan & Gill

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The whole point of pole fishing is to place the hook...and the bait.....in the same place every time.
And it's very effective at doing that in very slow water.

This is obviously more difficult with a rod and reel.....as nobody casts to the same spot every time.

However.....when the tide is moving.....a pole IMHO...is pointless and cumbersome.

And....some of the best fish I've ever caught on the Broads......were only a few feet from the bank.
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