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Hylander
Jun-30-2022 @ 8:19 AM                           Permalink
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Recently on holiday in May we came across this chap who was absolutely determined to cruise along for ages and ages , despite upsetting and worrying oncoming boats , on the left of the river.      A little day boat nearly had apoplexy and had to give way as others did because he was determined to stay where he was.     We did our best to attract his attention and finally I think the wife came out the back and the penny dropped.



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I have a friend who has had boats on the Lea and the Broads for many years. A few years ago he was going up the Ant and a short distance after exiting Ludham Bridge, he came upon a large hire cruiser coming towards him on his side of the river. The approaching boat wasn't going to change course, so my mate was forced to take avoiding action. As they passed each other my mate lean't out of the window shouting to the other helm to "get on the right side of the river". The poor hire boat skipper must have wondered what the hell was going on, as short distance further on my mate suddenly realised it was him that was on the wrong side not the other chap. He said he'd never felt such a fool in all his life!

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Personally, I'm not entirely convinced that the advice to stay on the right is entirely sound. Daysboats especially are often told to stick to the right thus they won't get into trouble but that does lead to problems where sailing boats or boats working the tide are concerned. In days of old we were told to look where we were going and to avoid hitting other boats, that worked pretty well! Now we have a 'town planner' in charge!


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Well am I missing something here.   I thought you negotiated rivers the exact opposite to your use of the road.   ie keeping to the right, which most of us do.  With regard to sailing vessels, it is appreciated when the helm of the sailing vessel bothers to look behind him and indicate which is the best side for the following boat to overtake.        A thank you from both sides and we all pass happily and safely.

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I don't think overtaking is covered in the Broads Authority Rules/Bye Laws. COLREGS specify something like it is the responsibility of the vessel overtaking to stay out of the way of the vessel being overtaken whatever side.  

Most people spend more time and energy going around problems than in trying to solve them.

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“I'm not entirely convinced that the advice to stay on the right is entirely sound”

Yeah, I’d agree that an instruction to STAY on the right is inappropriate. The Malpas tunnel on the Canal du Midi is 165m long and wide enough for only one boat. Two boats approaching from either end would sound their horns, in theory the one downstream from the tunnel would hold station (but would a hirer know or have been told that?). Of course, if he’s already in the tunnel the one upstream has to wait. When I approach it going East (downstream), a bend in the Canal allows me to hug the left bank enabling me to check whether or not the tunnel is free. A couple of weeks ago I could see a boat coming through so stayed where I was. However, as soon as the oncoming boat came through, it headed straight towards the small gap between me and the left bank, the skipper shouting that I was on the wrong side of the river. Had I tried to move there certainly would have been a collision, and he saw sense and passed me starboard to starboard with no problem.

There seems to be an inflexibility on the part of some that prevents them from doing anything other than chugging along on the right. No excuse for the boat shown in the pic though, but I do recall my daughter’s boyfriend helming my boat on the Broads for the first time. He took to it immediately, anticipating the bends and straightening the wheel before the turn was completed, no snaking or weaving, I took the opportunity to go below to check something. When I came up there was all kinds of confusion with oncoming boats, I hadn’t told him to stay right, he was “driving” on the left as he would his car...

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Hi Not only sail on the right you should give way to the right ie any body sailing from a side channel and if they are on your right they have right of way,John

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Is it sail on the right or pass port to port?

As to who has right of way, I was taught to imagine that you can always see the nav lights....If you can see the red one, you give way. If you can see the green one you have right of way.

Often causes confusion at the Thurne/Bure junction.  

Most people spend more time and energy going around problems than in trying to solve them.

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https://www.broads-authority.gov.uk/boating/navigating-the-broads/byelaws-and-speed-limits.

Just for general info...

Rob

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WheryNice, I couldn't get your link to work, but this is from the said byelaws.

"The master of a power-driven or manually propelled vessel
proceeding along a channel shall when it is safe and practicable
to do so keep to the side of mid channel which lies on the
starboard or right hand side of the vessel"

Steve. CM1 and NR12

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