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May-22-2022 @ 1:32 PM                           Permalink
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Not on the Broads but nevertheless it highlights the problems of high spirited same-sex parties:
https://www.worcesternews.co.uk/news/20156564.stag-party-sink-canal-boat-droitwich-lock/?utm_source=newsshowcase&utm_medium=gnews&utm_campaign=CDAqKggAIhAJPArJVKELs2p-jUMYVW8eKhQICiIQCTwKyVShC7Nqfo1DGFVvHjCB9VA&utm_content=rundown&gaa_at=g&gaa_n=AYc4ysvl3lflr0H-_4SwGQaxV8Og4ro_5KRdgs1zqN2uGmdgV0ENUamfZP7YXEJ7x9B743Xxu9nJ3g%3D%3D&gaa_ts=628a3412&gaa_sig=g3Ep4IkwXn_3jq2UC2RkM_rAIP5l66c2xnUbWUHBNdfn4ynE8gbpS8CR_GWYns-Wxb_sks1I0FmBNYA_47hR6w%3D%3D

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JR you may just have inadvertently caused a spike in bookings !  Gasp  

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Doing a bit of research on bad behaviour on the canals I found 2 other major incidents involving Stag parties, where boats were sunk. And numerous references from those who live on the canals to the fact that this type of poor, selfish,  anti social behaviour by large groups like this, happens increasingly often. One very sad case involved an elderly man having his boat so badly damaged that it began to sink during the night. This was his home, and he lost all his possessions when the boat sank, despite the valiant efforts next day of fellow boaters.

So,  it's not just The Broads. One thing does occur to me - does the "wrong" type of marketing attract these groups?  I have a long felt that the Broads needs to be more heavily promoted as a place of peace and tranquility, for nature lovers, wildlife lovers, sailing, family groups, etc, with the emphasis being on boating and being on the water, as opposed to luxury accommodation that happens to be on water. Wording encouraging Stag & hen parties shouldn't be centre stage ( if mentioned at all !) and large same sex groups should perhaps be banned, or have an age limit ?  I'm not saying I have all the answers but I am saying that the promotion of the area is skewed.  This is why so often us regular boaters will find ourselves being asked "where is the nearest pub mate?" , "where is the nearest supermarket?, "which town do we reach next along here?" etc  . Some people come with a very different expectation to the reality and then they barge around having their party perhaps more frustrated than they would've been have they gone to a real party place such as Ibiza....

Food for though ?

Karen

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Hi Maybe because of Covid they would have gone to Magerlouve in Spain, out of site out of mind, like they did before Covid and travel restrictions.. John

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Mmmmm bit of jumping to conclusions here, the boat sank because it got caught up on the cil, this happens several times a year on the canals and not just to stag parties. 1 boat was reported to have hit another boat, sadly that is part of life on the canals, steering a 65'  narrow boat for the first time isn't easy even long term owners get it wrong (Tim and Pru)

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Locks are dangerous places for first timers regardless of age or gender which is why I would like every lock manned and when not manned then chained off.

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TerryTibbs wrote, "Mmmmm bit of jumping to conclusions here"

TT, there is alot more comment and information on a canal boat forum (as you might expect). What is being said there, including reports from the hire company, bears out what's being said on here.

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TT the report of the latest incident states the crew left the boat and it was found to be sunk later.  Emergency services were not called by them.  So if that is correct then to me that's quite reckless.  We've been on a canal boat ourselves -65 feet long - and yes not easy to steer round bends but as with every type of boating, if taken steady, all should be fine.

The other incidents I referred to were simply reports I found whilst researching this one, and I thought I would add to the discussion by referring to them.  I accept that this has been a hot topic before and I'm sure it will remain so.  In my opinion incidents such as these will likely increase,  not least because so many young people today don't have common sense or respect for others ,  and are completely hell bent on everything being wild party antics.  Stag parties in particular seem now to be more often motivated by how wild, silly, dangerous or better than the last one they can be. Kids are still kids at 30! Another problem with society in this country.

Karen

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The real problem with society is that we will continue to procreate and every generation of kids is just as bad as the last lot. I very much doubt that that the Edwardians were as "genteel" as they are often portrayed and more recently in my memory the boats coming back in the late 60's,70's and probably 80's too indicated "hard" and uncaring use when you looked at the damage that had taken place, and that was without the benefit of Twotter and Faceache!!

I have been a member of this, and the other side for several years now and this topic comes up every year without fail - I suspect many of us remember just how perfect our own generation  was, but in all honesty I really doubt that behaviour has got any worse over the years.

I suggest many a fair maiden in their beautiful hats and frilly dresses seen in almost every Edwardian depiction and the gentlemen too, were often just a fantasy of the artist concerned and of their expectation, rather than a portrayal of reality!

Certainly as a lad at the yards from the late 50's on, I recall seeing boats returned in a horrendous state and you could only imagine how the damage occurred - no one was filming or commenting what went on in those days but it didn't take much imagination!!!

Thats not to condone nor approve of what happens, but I really doubt its anything new!!! And if you think it is, then thats just your view I think and is forgetting or overlooking what I remember!

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Brilliant post Marshy!!!!!

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