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The anglers involved with that particular boat have had their say on a Broads fishing facebook page. Their posting is reasonable and it appears that everybody was entirely amicable.

So what really happened then? Had someone targetted the boat over a grudge following a previous altercation, I wonder?

What appears to be true is that the anglers fishing there at the time are not the culprets.

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I wonder if the owners have considered asking home owners or businesses nearby what cctv footage they may have for that night ? I'll tell a little story ( true ). A car was stolen overnight . The owners visited all the nearby houses and village pub for cctv footage.  The police had said they would do this and they did eventually,  but it took them two weeks whereas the owners had been all around the area within 36 hours. It's amazing what can be deduced and then pieced together. Also, once they had a rough time, and a direction of travel for the car, they were able to go further along the route and could, with other cctv, and the process of elimination, establish which route the stolen car had taken.  They also established that nobody had come through the village by car for sometime before or after but a person had come to the village on foot just a few minutes before the car was stolen. They didn't then appear at the next cctv at the village pub and there are no other roads to walk down so that person is the likely culprit. This allowed for investigation via cctv further back as it's one road into the village at that point, and armed with a time they established that a person in the same type of clothing had exited a van near a business about 3/4 mile away. The story continues and the car was recovered but written off.

So, seeking evidence is vital, and of course anyone suspected of a crime is innocent until proven guilty but being mentioned or referred to is no accusation, - it is  simply that a picture of what, where, who etc is vital and relevant.  The car victims found that another person who was on cctv was a local resident and actually witnessed the car going out into the main lane but didn't at that point realise it was stolen. So all info collected, all people who may have seen anything, all people who were there before or after, can help build the picture . We all know that surely? There are enough tv detective programmes to demonstrate all info/comment/ surrounding an incident can be extremely relevant for many reasons.

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May I ask you for a link to that fishing page.
Would rather public but PM is OK
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B17 go to F/B & search for 'Fishing on the Norfolk Broads. I have taken the liberty of lifting a copy of a relevant post:
"Ross Turner
I was fishing at the staithe at the time the boat in question arrived and moored. Although a couple of anglers had to move a few feet no one was really put out and more pertinently no arguments were made from either side. The anglers that were there were elderly, grandfather and grandson, father and son, me and my pal and a husband and wife. I cannot state firmly enough there was absolutely no animosity from any of the anglers on the bank, in fact quite the opposite, the father and son removed their keepnet so the boat could moor without a murmur. Although it must be said the boat owner could have moored in a space where no one would have been disturbed. I too have read all the comments on the forums thread and I have found a lot of the facts to be totally disingenuous.~

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Thank you JR


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thanks JR, I too had read that account.
a lot different to some of the other  fictitious ramblings.



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Greybeard, no more speculation, please. I thought we’d agreed that.

None of us, unless we are a witness, is in a position to say what is the truth of this matter.

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That is good to read.    Apart from the odd toss pot and you get them in all walks of life , Anglers are just not like this.  



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Karen, can your please ask members to stop referring to folk as “toss pots ‘ as I think this is offensive. Whilst not aiming at certain members , whether I agree with their descriptive opinion or not , I also think that referring to the BA as ‘ Broads No- Authority ‘ is also in poor taste . You seem very quick to respond to some members who dare to speak out of turn yet regularly turn a blind eye to others. It’s everyone’s forum , let’s not have double standards please

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hedgehog, what is offensive about the word 'tosspot'? It simply means 'A drunkard; a toper; a tippler; one habitually given to strong drink.' Plenty of those on the Broads in the summer and in Norwich most weekends.

You may put your own connotation on the word, but Hylander is of an age where it would have been in common use, with its true meaning.

I rebranded the BA as the Broads No-Authority after their disasterous attempt to prevent us using the Broads at the start of the Covid-19 pandemic. As far as I'm concerned, their subsequent behaviour, including planning fiascos, hasn't redeemed them yet.

'Broads No-Authority' as a descriptor certainly has more credence than 'Broads National Park'.

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Palatine, as I said earlier my post was not a pop at you but more a case of highlighting double standards. Irrespective of ones age we now need to be more careful in the use of certain words that were once acceptable. I’m certainly no snowflake but it seems some folk are pulled up on their use of words, others aren’t. I would like to think that you would be suitably unimpressed if someone were to call you a toss pot  

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