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More for information than anything else, I suppose, but it’s been reported on social media that, overnight on 30/31 December 2021, blue paint was splattered over an occupied private boat which was moored at Neatishead Staithe (along with a couple of other boats).  None of the other boats was targeted.

I’m told that, when the boat arrived at the staithe, there were a number of anglers present, with keep nets out (competition, formal or informal, isn’t known). This information may, or may not, be relevant, although anyone at the staithe at the material time may have information, which I urge them to pass on to Broads Beat. I am not aware of ANY information which would point to the identity of the culprit(s).

There is some information on this incident on FB boating and angling groups, and quite a bit of detail and photos are on NBN. There has been some fruitless speculation on these sites, resulting in comments being blocked. Let’s not go down that route, please.

But just be aware, if you weren’t already, that there are idiots out there. Should anyone have any useful information please inform Broads Beat (who, it seems, were most disinterested) or the Broads No-Authority (who, at least, supplied some solvent to try to remove some of the paint).


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Who is the idiot, I wonder? Granted that spewing blue paint over a boat is not, by any imagination, a reasonable response.

What I do wonder, because it's happened to me, is whether there was an alternative mooring space nearby? I have been fishing, quietly minding my own business, when a boat has chosen to moor exactly where I was fishing, despite there being nearby alternatives. It does happen.

I have absolutely no knowledge of the realities of this one but I'm confident that there are probably two sides to this one!

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I've only recently heard about this too -  don't go on any of the FB groups nor am I a member of any other forums.

Can also say ithat it's a long time since we've moored at Neatishead,  as we generally go into Gays, but this is a worrying situation even if rare, as there have been reported incidents , from time to time, of other issues overnight with moored boats at easily accessible ( by foot) locations. This is more than just antisocial behaviour on this occasion, it is, as you rightly titled your thread, criminal damage.

The poor boat owners must have been very upset for this to happen to their pride and joy, and then be faced with what I imagine is a difficult clean-up job .  I do sincerely hope the perpetrators are caught , for everyone sake, so I would like to reinforce the message from Mr P. in that if anyone has any information at all, even something that seems insignificant,  please do report it. We should all be free to go about our boating hobby without fear of damage like this. Accidents and impacts are a big enough worry as it is!

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So, absolutely no evidence whatsoever it involved fishermen, but there were some present before it happened, and some present the following day.

trying to work out the reason it has taken place is pointless with only a small part of the event being known.

my grandfather was in ww1,,but I'm pretty sure it wasn't him that started it.




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No, there is no evidence that anglers were involved, and no-one here has suggested they were. If there had been a group of paddle-boarders there, I would have mentioned them as well. Not to make any insinuations, but to encourage anyone in the area, who might have information, to come forward.

There might be someone, angler, dog walker, bird watcher, whoever, who is unaware that this damage was done, but saw something, or has heard something since, that might be useful. The wider this is known, the more chance there is of that person coming forward.

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I should have been clearer , I was referring to other media sites.

however it might be good I agree if this one didn't follow that trend, eh.

many unexplained things happen around the various public staithes, boats untied, damaged, electric leads unplugged, etc.

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The anglers involved with that particular boat have had their say on a Broads fishing facebook page. Their posting is reasonable and it appears that everybody was entirely amicable.

So what really happened then? Had someone targetted the boat over a grudge following a previous altercation, I wonder?

What appears to be true is that the anglers fishing there at the time are not the culprets.

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I wonder if the owners have considered asking home owners or businesses nearby what cctv footage they may have for that night ? I'll tell a little story ( true ). A car was stolen overnight . The owners visited all the nearby houses and village pub for cctv footage.  The police had said they would do this and they did eventually,  but it took them two weeks whereas the owners had been all around the area within 36 hours. It's amazing what can be deduced and then pieced together. Also, once they had a rough time, and a direction of travel for the car, they were able to go further along the route and could, with other cctv, and the process of elimination, establish which route the stolen car had taken.  They also established that nobody had come through the village by car for sometime before or after but a person had come to the village on foot just a few minutes before the car was stolen. They didn't then appear at the next cctv at the village pub and there are no other roads to walk down so that person is the likely culprit. This allowed for investigation via cctv further back as it's one road into the village at that point, and armed with a time they established that a person in the same type of clothing had exited a van near a business about 3/4 mile away. The story continues and the car was recovered but written off.

So, seeking evidence is vital, and of course anyone suspected of a crime is innocent until proven guilty but being mentioned or referred to is no accusation, - it is  simply that a picture of what, where, who etc is vital and relevant.  The car victims found that another person who was on cctv was a local resident and actually witnessed the car going out into the main lane but didn't at that point realise it was stolen. So all info collected, all people who may have seen anything, all people who were there before or after, can help build the picture . We all know that surely? There are enough tv detective programmes to demonstrate all info/comment/ surrounding an incident can be extremely relevant for many reasons.

Karen

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May I ask you for a link to that fishing page.
Would rather public but PM is OK
Thanks


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B17 go to F/B & search for 'Fishing on the Norfolk Broads. I have taken the liberty of lifting a copy of a relevant post:
"Ross Turner
I was fishing at the staithe at the time the boat in question arrived and moored. Although a couple of anglers had to move a few feet no one was really put out and more pertinently no arguments were made from either side. The anglers that were there were elderly, grandfather and grandson, father and son, me and my pal and a husband and wife. I cannot state firmly enough there was absolutely no animosity from any of the anglers on the bank, in fact quite the opposite, the father and son removed their keepnet so the boat could moor without a murmur. Although it must be said the boat owner could have moored in a space where no one would have been disturbed. I too have read all the comments on the forums thread and I have found a lot of the facts to be totally disingenuous.~

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