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bitterncloud
Nov-09-2020 @ 11:16 AM                           Permalink
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Karen, can you please point out to me where the BA in their guidance have told marinas to close? Or which specific part of their information suggests that marinas should close?

I am unsure how you have managed to blame them for the way that certain marina operators have interpreted the information.

Infact if I go on there website it very clearly says marinas can stay open.

https://www.broads-authority.gov.uk/news/coronavirus-frequently-asked-questions

Your source please?

Thanks.

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Thanks Hylander, so the BA site doesn't say that marinas have to close.

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You need to read everything posted in this and other threads.  Marinas informing customers that they have closed after instructions  ( or advice ) from the BA is just one example.

In addition , I've seen two communications from other moorings providers that quote the BA interpretation and have told moorers that therefore boating is not allowed, etc. I don't feel able to reproduce those items here myself as they were sent in confidence. Perhaps a trawl of numerous moorings business websites will bring things up, I'm busy on work things at the moment.

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An update (of sorts) From BA.
https://www.broads-authority.gov.uk/news/coronavirus-covid-19

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BA COVID advice updated today.
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The updated BA Covid web page can be found here https://www.broads-authority.gov.uk/news/coronavirus-covid-19

To call it advice is a stretch of the imagination. More than 600 words are used, which boil down to:

"Instead we have been asked to “advise boat owners to digest and interpret the regulations and government guidance for non-essential travel and overnight stays to ensure they are acting within these” when considering using their boat for recreational activity."

Compare that bit of useless information with the pretty clear advice given out by the National Parks, RYA, Angling Trust etc., and it shows the BA up as a weak, indecisive organisation, which has fail to show any leadership and has comprehensively failed all its toll payers.

We're on our own, people. It's make your mind up time. No help from the Broads No-authority.

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On 9 November, bitterncloud said, "Karen, can you please point out to me where the BA in their guidance have told marinas to close? Or which specific part of their information suggests that marinas should close?

I am unsure how you have managed to blame them for the way that certain marina operators have interpreted the information.

Infact if I go on there website it very clearly says marinas can stay open.

https://www.broads-authority.gov.uk/news/coronavirus-frequently-asked-questions

Your source please?”


This has just been posted on the NBBO Facebook page:

”I have now had contact with both the Broads Authority and David at Broadsege marina. According to BA "With regard to marinas, they are independent businesses and the Broads Authority has no jurisdiction as to whether they remain open."

I, therefore, spoke to David at Broadsedge and you will probably already be aware that he received an email from BA stating that the Broads are closed to motorboats which is why he closed the marina. He has been trying to obtain clarification from BA since last week and despite leaving a message they have not come back to him.”


It seems clear from that that the Broads No-authority is culpable.



"..for the avoidance of any doubt, the broads are not legally a national park and do not come under the national park legislation, and nor will they."
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for DEFRA (Hansard 2015)

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Nov-10-2020 @ 5:41 PM                           Permalink
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It really sums up the BA - very happy to tell David that boats are not allowed out but not able to tell him that that information was not really correct and that there is nothing in the legislation to stop him reopening.

Just what you really need to run the Broads - an organisation who cannot offer you the guidance you require!!

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The BA did not say that the Broads were 'closed' to motorboats though did they?

If they did, why hasn't every other marina locked their doors?

Maybe Mr David could try phoning them again and asking, rather than locking berth holders out, waiting on an email and blaming an organisation which has no Authority to shut other businesses down for what has happened?

Amazing how easy it is to apportion blame than it is to use some common sense.

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