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More FAKE NEWS in the EDP - spreading more confusion https://www.edp24.co.uk/news/norfolk-sailors-return-to-the-broads-after-guidance-change-1-6931035

”Dr Mark Collins, chairman of the Northern Rivers Sailing Club, said this was “fantastic news”, and that the day after the change was announced spent “four or five hours” exercising out in his yacht.
He said: “We thought it was unfair that we shouldn’t be able to take our boats out as exercise, and just wanted some consistency from the government.”

On Tuesday, November 10, the Broads Authority updated their website to say that sailing, windsurfing, canoeing, rowing, kayaking and paddle-boarding had all been permitted as forms of legitimate exercise by the Department for Environment and Rural Affairs.

This is provided the “usual guidance” around social distancing is maintained.

“We understand we can’t use them to ‘travel’ anywhere, but as general exercise, we couldn’t see anything wrong with sailing as an activity.”

A DEFRA spokesman said: “Across all sectors, it is the responsibility of individuals and organisations to digest and interpret the regulations to ensure they are acting within these.

“Non-essential travel is not permitted anywhere in England at this time, including on waterways.”


This is utter garbage.

Nothing in the regulations prevents a boat being used as a form of transport.
Nothing in the regulations prevents a boat of any description being used for recreation.
Nowhere in the regulations is ‘non-essential travel’ mentioned.



"..for the avoidance of any doubt, the broads are not legally a national park and do not come under the national park legislation, and nor will they."
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for DEFRA (Hansard 2015)

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Even the "smart" motorways ain't run by smart people. Currently on the M1 in Yorkshire the messsge signs declare :

" Essential Travel Only" .

That was Friday.

I've been saying since the new restrictions came into force that they non essential travel isn't mentioned. I've had a few "discussions" on this with numerous people to date.  Wink  

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I wholly agree with the point that many people view this as lockdown 2.  You only need to view the social media platforms to see that with one notable peddling out the same self affronting instructions to avoid their boat, listen to the BA and stay away.  

During Lockdown - the original, most of us did adhere to the requirements and spent the weeks hoping to be allowed back which we were in July for those who live miles away.    We are back in the halfway house of being able to use your boat for the day as long as you don't stay over on it.

No wonder though we are losing faith with the requirements.  Just this weekend there were massive queues to get into our local city's retail parks and a large garden centre and yet the poor retailers on our high street who strictly operated maximum of 2 etc etc are closed to all but "click and collect".  They are selling the same or similar products to those available at the garden centres or B&M etc.  Absolutely criminal.

Hospitality tricks in tier 3;
Have a bowl of chilli and drink all day
"There's a bit of a wait for food but you are welcome to order and drink"
Menu placed on the table whilst you drink in case somebody comes in.
Chicken and fries for 1p - bet that offer doesn't last after tier 3

The member clubs loophole.  In tier 3 because they supply not sell alcohol this wasn't banned and they all reopened around here

I'm totally fed up with the whole mess and how it badly affects those who play by the rules

The pace of life down there
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Nov-16-2020 @ 12:30 PM                           Permalink
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my son who is a bus driver went into John Lewis he said it was packed very few masks being worn and no distancing and all age groups, he turned round and legged it.John

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Nov-16-2020 @ 2:37 PM                           Permalink
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anville - that is terrible ,   someone should report John Lewis for allowing it.      We will never see the back of this virus at this rate.



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Our John Lewis is only click and collect you cannot walk round the store

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Strange that - the Norwich one, according to their website, is closed and available only for Click and Collect.

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On the John Lewis web site it states that English stores are temporary closed from the 5th November.

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John Lewis stores are indeed closed apart from click and collect. I know this because my son works for them .

Something about this story is not quite ringing true.

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Unless, of course, the son lives in either Wales or Scotland. John Lewis shops in both countries are open.

"..for the avoidance of any doubt, the broads are not legally a national park and do not come under the national park legislation, and nor will they."
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for DEFRA (Hansard 2015)

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