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BELLA
Nov-11-2020 @ 7:09 PM                           Permalink
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Paladine, it’s not me, I’ve learnt that you do your homework first.
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LOL

"..for the avoidance of any doubt, the broads are not legally a national park and do not come under the national park legislation, and nor will they."
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for DEFRA (Hansard 2015)

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Pally, yes Brooms have said they are remaining open and operational but they dont actually state whether berth holders are allowed to visit or not. I have e mailed you the document I received from them.

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if it is to be it is up to me.

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Thank you, TT. I note they are silent on the matter of using your own boat, so it's up to the individual owner. No problem there, then.



"..for the avoidance of any doubt, the broads are not legally a national park and do not come under the national park legislation, and nor will they."
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for DEFRA (Hansard 2015)


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A Shambles! From the edp
https://www.edp24.co.uk/motoring/broads-motor-boaters-demand-clarity-from-government-over-lockdown-rules-1-6930529

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Thank you, steve.

The comments section below that article shows very clearly that there are some who understand the regulations, understand the guidance and know the difference between the two, and there are those who haven’t got a clue. The media are somewhat responsible for the confusion, calling this the “second lockdown”, a term HMG has avoided using. This leads some to think the restrictions are the same as in March. They aren’t. They are less restrictive.

The Broads No-Authority (BNA) compounded the confusion by rushing out a very flawed interpretation, on which they subsequently had to back-pedal. They seemed more concerned with obstructing boating, rather than setting out a considered advice based on the regulations.

Others, such as the RYA, CaRT, Angling Trust and National Parks, seemed to have no such difficulty. Perhaps that is because they have their own legal advisors, who understand the situation in relation to their own spheres of operation, rather than farming it out. I wonder if the BNA actually took any legal advice before issuing the first statement. I very much doubt it.

Perhaps the Communications Team, who have made such a pig’s ear of it, should be slimmed down and the cost saving put towards employing a proper legal advisor.


"..for the avoidance of any doubt, the broads are not legally a national park and do not come under the national park legislation, and nor will they."
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for DEFRA (Hansard 2015)


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If this non second lockdown is less restrictive, how come our holidays have been cancelled.    It is not as if we are like pubs or clubs.  We would be in our own bubbles.   How I hate that word.

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Is there a second lockdown happening?? The way it is out there it's life as normal, non essential shops have been open , even a hair saloon open down here where i live , let alone traffic levels,

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The restrictions this time around are less draconian than in March. But there are still restrictions, which, yes, include not taking holidays. Regarding some premises remaining open, there has been Police, and local authority, action against those who flout the regulations, but, unless there is something sensational, reporting of such doesn’t sell newspapers.

"..for the avoidance of any doubt, the broads are not legally a national park and do not come under the national park legislation, and nor will they."
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for DEFRA (Hansard 2015)


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"The restrictions this time around are less draconian than in March"
Agreed.. but they seem to be handing out a lot more fines this time than before, I don't have a problem with this if your behaving yourself then you won't get fined "simples"

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