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L'sBelles
Nov-01-2020 @ 11:11 AM                           Permalink
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"Government website updated tonight ,read section 11
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/new-national-restrictions-from-5-november#travel"

Thanks Steve. I think Section 1 is the one that provides clarity stating that you should only leave the home for execise or to visit an outdoor public space. The word "recreation" is not included as it was in the earlier briefing and since operating a motor cruiser is unlikely to be considered 'exercise' and it is certainly not 'an outdoor public space' that effectively knocks using your boat during the specified period on the head.


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Nov-01-2020 @ 12:18 PM                           Permalink
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"Why do people have to continually try to find ways to get round the restrictions on their liberty which have been put in place for their benefit? We as a country are deep in the brown stuff and need to get out of it as soon as possible. The bottom line is that the Government is seeking to reduce the spread of the virus by containment, please do your part to help them and us by thinking of others and not just yourself."

Forgive me for feeling aggrieved but if my wife and I drive 20 miles, go out on our boat for a couple of hours, and drive home without engaging with anyone else we are not likely to be spreading any disease.
However, immediately following the 1st lockdown there were thousands who jumped on a plane and went off on foreign holidays, we have students holding house and street parties with no protection at all (coincidence the worst affected places are cities with universities?), and we even had a barber in Ipswich who continued to cut hair without any PPE and he knowingly had Covid symptoms. Turns out he was positive!
These are the people you need to preach to.

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Nov-01-2020 @ 12:36 PM                           Permalink
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Well from our point of view, it had been our intention to continue using the boat at least until the end of the year, weather permitting, not least to make up for the short and expensive season thus far. However, in anticipation of harsher restrictions, we decided we would winterise her this weekend. Friends also from outside Norfolk did the same in terms of winter precautions when they last left their boat a couple of weeks ago, in consideration  of being moved up a tier. IF we lived, as some of you do, within just a few minutes, then we would feel able to take daily excercise and be able to check on her if/when the weather worsened,  but that's not possible so a full winterisation was the only option.

I don't blame the eat out to help out scheme in particular for the lastest spikes , I'm afraid I blame all the people, many of them young, who just are not following the rules at all, on a daily basis. This surely must be responsible for a large proportion of the infection being passed around:

No masks
or masks making people believe that social distancing isn't required in shops as they come right by you
Constant mixing in households where of course there are no measures such as protective screens in place
Folk letting their kids have visitors at home (from little kids to teenagers) whilst spouting that "the kids are together at school so it's ok " and not realising the cleaning regime and other measures  make the school environment safer
Pubs and shops being unable or unwilling to challenge those who don't wear masks, or mix with other tables , gather in groups etc.
Students and young people partying all over the country
Protestors protesting instead of staying home, and ignoring social distancing pretty much completely
Belief in conspiracy theories that Covid doesn't exist/ isn't dangerous

I could go on, but the British public must accept some of the blame for where we are now. Those of us, and I know there are many (but not enough) who have followed the rules,  must be feeling almost betrayed. The Furlough extension  for example is no good to those whose employers made them redundant recently in anticipation of the scheme ending. And that's jobs in other sectors besides hospitality and tourism. People's lives devastated by loss whether that be loved ones or financially. It's a nightmare, especially for those in their 50's and beyond. I will say this tongue in cheek , but ...

... perhaps we should have previously locked down everyone under 29 , or more, and let the older generations have some life and freedom ?! after all they have less time left.

Stay safe all, we are living in what feels like a science fiction film (and don't get me started on the theories of HOW this virus appeared in the first place )

Karen


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L'sBelles - sorry hadn't seen your post. You make some valid points.

Monica - I'm sorry about your rescheduled  Broads holiday also being cancelled, and I know how much you were looking forward to it after having to give up your own boat after many years of enjoyment in retirement. Hope you can rebook for the spring and it will be third time lucky.

Karen

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Folk letting their kids have visitors at home (from little kids to teenagers) whilst spouting that "the kids are together at school so it's ok " and not realising the cleaning regime and other measures  make the school environment safer

Unfortunately we have family that quote this mantra all of the time.  Thankfully they are a long way from us and dont come visiting, otherwise I would have to say something.  It is as if the virus is a figment of someone's imagination.     They all duly went out to the pub on Sunday and the cinema because they would not be able to go out after Thursday.    May be its me but words fail me at times.




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Nov-01-2020 @ 6:26 PM                           Permalink
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"May be its me but words fail me at times."

No it is not just you!
This is my point of frustration why even responsible use of our boating time is taken away by legislation because of the actions of the moronic few who cram as much potential virus spreading activity in before the lockdown begins.

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Just heard on the radio on the way home about a rave attended by several hundred people, who threw bottles a the police who manged to arrest the princely sum off two!! unbelievable.. Unpack the rubber bullets

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Precisely  LB!  Have just made a cuppa and switched the iPad back on, and what do I see in the news  ?! -  700 selfish crazy brain dead idiots had a rave in Bristol last night  Mad  

Words fail me too. This is the level of intelligence or pure selfishness that we have created in many of our young people today. So many reasons for this which are too numerous to mention but these are the same young folk that some people want to give the vote to at 16! Lord help us!  

I truly do despair.

Karen

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Two? Only managed to arrest two?!

We're doomed !

Karen  

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Hi It's impractical to arrest 700 people but not the two who organized it, and confiscated their equipment along with a fine no doubt which will have some affect. of cause what they should have done is what we did in Egypt is spray them with indelible purple dye then for days after any body with a purple face was detained, or they had to hide for weeks until it wore off and had to buy new clothes. John

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