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This is very sweeping and discriminatory.I have seen single handlers handle and moor boats with such skill and care  that we have looked on with awe and admiration. However, we have also witnessed just the opposite from private owners who have huge boats which  are totally unsuitable for the Broads. Last year we were moored on the way to Beccles when this huge trawler like boat called Tulis I think came into moor. He was completely out of control and if my husband hadn't vert quickly moved us out of the way we would have been smashed to pieces. The skipper freely admitted that he couldn't handle it on his own and accepted what could have happened.Maybe the insurers of private boats should put restrictions on them helming single handed.

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HI Pauline

I think in a round a bout way they do. My insurance asked me for my experience and skills in managing boats similar to mine .

I presumed  they expect people who have many years experience not to do anything stupid  along th lines you describe but load the premiums of new owners accordingly.

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ive no wish to blow my own trumpet, but im going to anyway
last year i was at the watering post ludham, once topped up i saw a space 100 odd yards back up stream, so rather than turn around i reversed all the way passing quite a few moored boats. one fella said b*gg*r me i cant make my boat go FORWARDS that straight!!!
have to say orion handles like a dream

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Well searching round for answers still I've found that yes Richardsons have stopped solo hirers and cancelled there bookings along side single parents , also this from Clive Richardson
" this change will bring us in line with our agents standard, it has not been forced and is not due to insurance.

over the years we have had to bring in measures like stability tests and canopy procedures due to problems at other yards, these are reactive measures,

we would rather make a change before a problem,  it is the prerogative of the other yards to take on the risk and allow single adult hires. "


We are doing our best to upgrade and accommodate all affected parties but unfortunately you can't please all the people all the time but most customers have been understanding

if you are a regular  hirer you will have seen the boat acceptance certificate grow its content about 400% over the last 10 years,  this is a reflection of the world we live in. "


Barnes brinkcraft and bridgecraft are accepting single parent families and solo hirers ( note both hoseasons )


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"We are doing our best to upgrade and accommodate all affected parties..."

So you're a single parent, whose booking has been cancelled. How on earth can you be upgraded or accommodated?

"..for the avoidance of any doubt, the broads are not legally a national park and do not come under the national park legislation, and nor will they."
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for DEFRA (Hansard 2015)

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Pally , as said elsewhere you'll be upgraded if you can find another partner / adult to come with you , by then no doubt the boat would of already been gone , ??

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Hi Ian

Yes I can believe that.We have an Ocean 30 which is the same hull as Orion , and yes they handle very well especially at slow speeds. We have a bow thruster on ours  . We are not that confident! Going back to how some single handlers have impressed us. Some years ago before we bought our own boat we were moored at Barton Turf.Along came a Bounty 30 called Cloud Nine. He moored that boat with such precision that it really stuck in our minds. On owning our own boat we had a berth in Richardsons wet shed.Who should moor up alongside but  Cloud Nine with again precision stern mooring. We did not recognise the boat but the skipper. He was that impressive .To my knowledge he always skippered alone. Going back to the insurance for private owners we have never been asked about our experience. We have been boating for many years but still not that good!We just go very slow!

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Ah, yes, Cloud Nine. The owner was a member here for a number of years. That was probably the best Bounty 30 on the Broads. Sadly, he sold up a few years ago. The boat is still around though.

"..for the avoidance of any doubt, the broads are not legally a national park and do not come under the national park legislation, and nor will they."
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for DEFRA (Hansard 2015)

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I'll join in the "skill boast" although I think it was more the boats fault than mine! I managed to reverse a "Juliette" the full length of Horsey Dyke with boats moored all along! This was in one go, not stopping to straighten up! I was well pleased and got a round of applause! As I hinted at though, these boats are a joy to helm.

Trevor

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yes it certainly feels good when you get it right, i always reverse into neatishead, albeit slowly and rarely touch another boat. mind you, you feel a complete idiot when it goes wrong!! but slowly slowly, no one notices

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