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JeremyFisher
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Nice one Coriolis,  couldn't have put it better.

Of course and don't forget, that if you happen to be  in the middle of a race, all those rules apply ONLY to the racing yachts.  Other sailors just get abused the same as cruisers!



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Is this what you mean by "parking" without ropes Wink

The cruiser was stationary by this point

Apologies for the quality, but it's captured off video


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OK, so where does this bit come in the sailing rules?


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Spot on gents await my next lesson.

roya

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Close - they were both 3 Rivers Race, the stationary cruiser was in 2003 and the capsize in 2001 (when the race was called off!)

Here's another - I think this is when you are ziggy-zaggying with a very long sticky out bit at the front, you must remember NOT to go into people's mooring dykes, 'cos there isn't enough room to get out again Blush


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most sailors are a) hungover b) drunk c) about to get drunk

when waving back to a yachtsman, count the number off fingers he's holding up when he waves back.

If you see a yacht half buried in the reeds the yachtsman would not be offended if you offered them a tow out - it's probably me.

all yachtsman are masochists and enjoy being cold, wet and uncomfortable.

Yachtsman really enjoy the sound that the long wooden thing at the front of a yacht makes when it meets fiberglass

Yatchsman sail because they can't work out how to drive a crusier

Yachtsman are fluent in Anglo Saxon, when racing they forget the english language and only use anglo saxon

yachtsman love nature, this is why we spend so much time in the reeds, stuck on the mud etc

As the head on most yachts are impossible to use underway yacht crews will usually
use the river, also know as testing the temperature/depth of the river, checking the moorings.
on the other hand it can be viewed as just marking their territory.

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Speaking as someone who's put the bowsprit through two windows in one race (3 Rivers 2002) - it's fun to start with, but much less so when recreating the event on the insurance forms.

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Hi  Coriolis,

Good points made, but in my experience, when meeting s fleet racing, the Port/Starboard rule goes totally out of the window unless you're racing as well!

Still , all that shouting airs the lungs1

Looking forward to getting back on the water,  not long now

Regards

Simon



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You're right - port and starboard does tend to go out of the window when a non-racing sailing boat meets a racing one. That's because there's a long standing yachting convention (not actually a hard rule) that non-racing sailors will attempt to give way to racing sailors. (Self-preservation may be part of that)

But how do you tell, I hear you ask, who is racing and who is not?

There's another convention: racing boats should be flying a square burgee (flag to indicate wind direction at the top of the mast) and non-racing sailing boats should be flying a triangular burgee (ditto).

On the Broads however, this tends to break down because A.) most Broads sailors are too mean to buy two burgees and B.) Even if they own two, they are too lazy to swap them over and generally hoist a burgee at the start of the year and lower it at the end of the season.

Now - if we want to talk about real obstructions - what about fishermen's rods? They're now selling them up to 17 meters (yes - meters!) long. Get one of those on each side of the river (as happens on the Yare, regularly) and you've got no option but to collect a few floats around your keel. Fortunately, this does not tend to slow a three ton boat down very much. Most fisherman fail to appreciate this.

(PS Before anybody objects - I fish too. But I move my rod when boats come past.)

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The ones I like are those who pretend to be sailing,but as you reverse out of the reed bed have a mighty outboard going and a big grin. I have been known to make notes and stuff them at a later date. Be warned!

Clive

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