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Sep-13-2016 @ 10:23 PM                           Permalink
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Hi!
Recently we went on the Jewel of light three for a week around the broads and had a really good time! I'd just like to share a video of me taking the boat out of the fairly packed dyke that morning. I was quite excessive on the throttle when using it to swing the back end of the boat round, so any tips and tricks would be appreciated.
The video ; https://youtu.be/aR6Cj4Vc9Jk
Thanks James

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Sep-14-2016 @ 7:43 AM                           Permalink
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I have not watched all through but one question.   What camera are you using,  very good quality video.

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Sep-14-2016 @ 7:48 AM                           Permalink
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Just watched it through.  Well done.

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Hi James great video. well done you got there and with such a large boat at 46 ft in length. It looked like very hard work on the arms.

I do find that with hire boats in general the steering has very little effect in reverse.

I visited Neatishead last year aboard Sun Emblem at 44ft in length and found the moorings to be busy both sides and decided to reverse in.

I swung the boat full right hand down  and used a little bit of forward end reverse till lined up in the centre ready for reversing.  Leaving the boats steering full right hand down I  reversed very slowly at tick over for the entire length without touching the steering at all.  As the boat slowly started to skew round I gave a very short burst of forward throttle to bring the boat back straight. I then put back into reverse and continued very slowly reversing, repeating this action as necessary till I reached the end.

I also find that  turning a boat round easier to put the boat on full lock and leave on full lock using forward and reverse till turned around.

Happy boating. Cheers

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Alan...
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Sep-14-2016 @ 8:34 AM                           Permalink
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The outcome was great, you got out with good control and great observation as you went, I just wish others could do that.

However, 95 % or more of the steering actions weren't necessary, you made it very difficult for others to copy.

As already said, boats don't steer that well, so If I was doing it I wouldn't move the wheel whilst going astern.
If you find the boat not steering true, then a short burst of throttle forward to kick the stern across will do it, leave the wheel alone, and reverse again, repeat the kick forward, and you'll find you hardly move the wheel.
I have many years of experience, and as you get older, you look for better ways to do a task, as the shoulders can't manage that sort of effort lol.
If you had to reverse the full length of say Waxham cut, or Catfield dyke, you would soon change your technique.
So here is my challenge to you, if it's quiet, reverse the full length of a similar narrow dyke, and you will soon improve your technique.
My comments are not meant to be a criticism, but more of advice.
You achieved  what many other people including private craft couldn't do. So overall well done.

I'm looking forward to seeing your next video.




best regards, Richard.

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Sep-14-2016 @ 10:55 AM                           Permalink
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Hi James. Welcome to the forum and thanks for the video. You did extremely well. However, but without criticism, there are easier ways as mentioned in the previous replies. As you can see from the replies this forum has a wealth of knowledge and by seeking other people's views like you have, you will learn something new every day. Well done.

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Sep-14-2016 @ 2:17 PM                           Permalink
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Hi

Well done, I don't think I could have done it. One option is to rope the boat when you have such a narrow channel. Not macho but it what the barge people did and many broads sailors still do.

As others have indicated steering in reverse is a bit of a pointless exercise. I would go further than the others . No single engined shaft driven boat of any sort will steer in reverse at all. Therefore there s no point in trying. Leave the wheel alone when you are reversing.

Think of the stuff under the boat. You have a propellor and behind that a rudder. When going forward the water is deflected from the propellor onto the rudder and this creates steerage.

In reverse the water is directed ahead of the rudder and no amount of turning the wheel will make the slightest difference to the direction the boat chooses to go in.

Again as others have said you steer in reverse by blipping the throttle as you go forward.

Have fun

Graham



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Sep-14-2016 @ 5:03 PM                           Permalink
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Well done James
With your attitude to boating the Broads will be a better place. We hope you and your friends will enjoy boating again soon.
Kindest Regards
Marge and Parge Smile

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I know a few of us above have already posted, but we missed the fact that this was James's first post.
Well done to Graham for the first welcome.

James, welcome to the Norfolk Broads forum, and what a great post to open with.
I hope you can post many more.



best regards, Richard.

Can't wait to be back on our boat on
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I'm using a go pro hero - the basic one, really good value for money at £80

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