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deedaajohn
Apr-16-2015 @ 6:50 PM                           Permalink
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we had our first outing on our boat ( avocet ) last week everything went well until we took her back to the marina we need to moor stern first to allow my wife easier access thats when the problems started i positioned us so that i could turn the wheel fully and we would come round straight into the mooring it didnt happen after 3 or 4 tries it got worse every time then the chap from the boat next to us came aboard and did it for me probably scared i would collide with his boat he told me that i was trying to moor as though i was parking a car somethind i have no problem with and that i should have stayed on the same lock in forward and reverse and let the wind help to blow us into the mooring can anyone expand on this or do i just keep trying until i get it right grateful for any advice john

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Whilst you don't describe in detail the engine configuration of the freeman, because you were mooring stern on, I assume you do not have an outboard, which is often used on smaller boats.

Bluff-stern boats do not steer very well in reverse. You have to point the stern where you wish to go in forward gear. Once the boat is aligned, you can then reverse. Whilst there is an effect called paddle wheel which sometimes mucks up your intention, the boat will continue in roughly the same direction in which it is pointing. However, the wind can often screw you.

the rule of thumb; steer going forward.

if your boat has an outboard, you can use it to pull yourself around. Point the propeller in the direction you wish the stern to go.

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Hi

Here goes.

Unless you have an out drive boats don't steer in reverse. They just go straight back. The way to control them is to keep the wheel on hard lock when you need to adjust the direction. Once it is there you should not need to touch it again.  If you are going in crooked you put the engine into forward gear and rather than go forward the boat will actually turn and straighten up. Take it out of forward and start reversing again slowly. Keep on doing this process and you will find you come in perfectly.

Four tips

Don't try and do it in one. It is much easier making a few adjustments between forwards and  reverse.

Reverse slowly. Lots of power in reverse will almost certainly end in tears or a bent bank.

Don't touch the wheel once it is hard over and you have started the manoeuvre.

Practice on a big empty broad befor trying in a tight mooring

Good luck

Graham

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deedaajohn hi,

As stated the steering has little effect in reverse.

Here is an extract from my website.

"Stern on mooring. I have found that with  hire boats in general the steering has very little effect in reverse. I put steering on full lock to spin the boat to line up for reversing towards bank, I leave the boat on full lock and very slowly reverse.  As the boat gradually skews round I give a quick thrust forward to bring the boat beyond straight and continue to reverse repeating this action as necessary creating a slight zigzag motion"

Kind Regards
Alan...
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We have a Freeman 23 which we have to moor stern on at our own moorings in Horning. If you see us out and about Barrie will happily demonstrate how he approaches ours & it does seem to work very well just about every time - obviously down to his very helpful first mate




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Dear John To moor a shaft driven boat stern on approach
into wind or tidal flow and aline the stern of the boat
with the mooring slot this can be the trickiest bit as
you need to allow for any drift caused by wind or
currant as you come back wards if no wind or currant
you don't need to of set the boat. place the helm
amidship ie aligned front to rear then engage reverse
and proceed very SLOWLY low engine revs if as you
proceed rear wards and the boat swings to one side give
the throttle a VERY quick blip in forwards to swinge
stern to starboard or reverse to swing stern to port to
iline the boat then proceed SLOWLY in reverse.if you go
fast in reverse the rotation of the propeller will
swings the stern to port with r/h props which most
boats have, the more rev's the more the swing to one
side the majority of people try to do it too fast and
then make a hash of it. this also applies when leaving
a stern on mooring if you gun the engine as most people  
tend to do the rear of the boat will swing to starboard
and scratch all the side of boat that is moored to
starboard of you with the rear corner of the boat.and a
lot of hire boat's have very nasty metal corner
bracket.The black art is when you have to offset the
alignment when wind or currant cause the boat to drift
sidewards people then try to do it quickly which then
only makes it worse. if you have a bow thruster it
makes it a lot easier with twin engines and outboard
engines even easier.the only boats that will steer in
reverse are the one's with massively long rudders. Hope
this will help it requires a lot of practice not all
boats act the same.Doing it with low rev's is half the
secret.And if you drag the mud weight over the bow this
will help to keep you from drifting side way's in a
cross wind or currant.John



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thank you for all of the advice we will be back on avocet on thur 30th of april for a week so please stay away from bridge broad as thats where i am going to practice thanks again john

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free lesson on how to moor boats and steer  craft .......just ask

terms apply

i,ll shout at yer and slap yer rist ,but yer moigth larn sum thnag

the only way to do this is to been shown by some one who knows and in the flesh ......!

its all down to technik....vor sprung boot technic

happy boating ...jon

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I agree with Jon, need to be shown. I had my Freeman 23 for over 11 years and could get into most spots but the wind is your worst enemy.


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For a masterclass on stern mooring, get yourself to the New Inn in Horning at about 3 o'clock on a sunny Saturday. Take a filled glass of your choice to one of the waters edge tables and watch Gus coaching patrons in. If you're lucky you'll see him leap onto a boat and do it for them! He's a true professional and I'm sure will tell you all you need to know - a pint of Fosters will keep him in one place long enough.

Andy and Kathy (IP11)

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