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MAIB has just issued the formal report into two deaths on a Bayliner on Windermere in April 2013.  As usual it makes sobering reading.

MAIB CO Windermere

This post is made as a safety reminder to all who read it.  Can we avoid turning it into finger-pointing exercise.

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30 fatalities on boats due to CO poisoning in 20 years. Don't be next. Regardless of whether it's mandatory in the BSS or not, get, fit and replace the batteries of an approved CO monitor. You'd never forgive yourselves if a member of your family met with such an unnecessary death. Or it could be you that loses their life.

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Not forgetting to check the ones at home as well.

You have got smoke detector(s)and CO detector(s) at home - haven't you?

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We have one of these we take every time we are on the boat

http://www.screwfix.com/p/fireangel-co-9d-7-year-digital-co-alarm/92361?kpid=92361&cm_mmc=Google-_-Product%20Listing%20Ads-_-Sales%20Tracking-_-sales%20tracking%20url&kpid=92361&cm_mmc=Google-_-Shopping%20-%20Security-_-Shopping%20-%20Security&gclid=CPTBxYnMtMMCFSYUwwodGaUA3w

The great thing is you can reinsert the battery circuit breaker to save battery life. We wouldn't be without one.

£24 or your life, you decide Scared


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An extremely valid and very sad post - but thanks for sharing.

Alarms (CO & Fire)are already fitted in the caravan, but despite having no heating system on board the boat, I will be installing a CO alarm before re-launch as a direct result of this post.

Much appreciated warning. Frown

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Very sad, also be aware at this time of year for all
those doing repairs or jobs on the boat, in the garage
or shed and using mini generators, MAKE SURE THE
GENERATOR IS LEFT OUTSIDE. A father and son tragically
lost there lives whilst using a petrol water pump in a
cellar near me during flooding a few years ago.
CO is a silent killer.

The more I practice the luckier I
get.


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A sad tale indeed , but goes to highlight the benefit of the strict BSS enforcement on broads craft .

no traffic, no fumes, no traffic wardens.......bliss!!

simon

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Unfortunately, as yet, CO detectors are not mandatory for the BSS (unless the requirements have been recently updated).

Regards, Ray.

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Don't think they're a formal requirement - or smoke detectors....

It's this kind of safety feature which I think is the saddest omission from the BSS - it mainly looks at not making your boat a hazard to other river users, but doesn't look much at the safety of those on board, except for insisting on ventilation (which won't help much in the situations here as any poison collecting in the hull will be below the vent levels, by and large).  

You can be leaking and sinking or poisoning yourself but still be compliant.

I suspect far more people have come to grief on their own (private or hired) boat than have caused grief to others by hazards generated....anybody got any data?

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As a gas engineer I am very aware of the potential danger of burning gas; indeed any fossil fuel. I have a gas alarm, co detector and smoke alarm on my boat.

However, property maintained gas fridges and cookers with the correct levels of permanent ventilation are safe.

One thing people rarely check though, is the flue outlet on gas fridges. The little cover on the hull that bears the name Electrolux should be removed periodically and checked. Spiders love to build nests in them.

Steve. CM1

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