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well the pull of the broads is getting all too much, and although we are booked in for the early may bank holiday, we are considering taking a small sheerline out for a few days mid march.
the only problem is hubby sufferes from arthritis in his knees, and finds stern on mooring much easier to do.
a comment from one of brinks yard staff has prompted me to ask a question, is it easy to put a boat into the bank stern-on on a main river,tie the stern rope, and allow the current to do the work of pushing/pulling the boat alongside the bank? (given that this would be a fairly quiet time on the rivers too)
never tried it before, but yard lad said it worked well with smaller boats like the breakaways, dayboats,
sheerlines ect, is this true?.. anyone tried it?
  now i feel like a real novice again!
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Hi Julie
can't see a problem with that, especially as you say with a small boat. Gently reverse into the bank, get a line ashore, keep it slack until the tide brings the boat side on. If you can get a long mooring line from the bow, along the side deck to the stern and get ashore with this as well, it will then be easy to pull the bow round. I ocassionally do this on my 30' yacht, as I moor in a very narrow dyke and its difficult to come in side on.
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Hi Julia,

One other thing that's worth trying is to tie the bow rope to whichever stern rope you will need, this will take some planing when you leave the previous mooring. That way you can tie a quick knot and step off and still have the other rope with you.

If I take my boat out alone, which is 35ft, then this is the method I always use. Better than stepping off to tie one rope up, only to see the boat starting to drift out, only to find that as you step back on and collect the other rope, it is too short to go back along the boat and step off Frown

Keith

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Keith,
spot on, lost count the amount of times the ropes been too short.
Where I moor, I usually find the wind blowing straight down the dyke as I motor in, so when I reach my mooring, I head as slowly as possible bow into the bank, this is made more akward by the fact that I have a four foot bowsprit poking over the front! Anyway the bow line is taken ashore and secured, the stern is allowed to carry its way round, with help from the quant if necessary to bring it in. It has to be done like this as the boat with all overhangs is around 36' and the width of the dyke minus the width of the boat opposite is around 36'1"! Hmm, perhaps a slight exageration but its very tight, especially if the boat opposite has fully inflated fenders!
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Julia,
If I'm reading your post correctly, you want to moor stern on so that your other half can more easily get off the boat.  If this is the case, getting the boat alongside once you're both off the boat is easy, especially if you follow the tips given above.  Your problem will be getting the boat stern on in the first place and tied securely enough to make a safe landing.  Mooring stern on seems to give most hirers (and private owners) most trouble when mooring.  It is a tricky manoeuvre when mooring at somewhere sheltered like Womack - stern-on mooring in tidal waters takes loads of practice (and just a little luck).  Add even a light wind, and you'll probably end up alongside before either of you has managed to get ashore.  There is, however, a trick to this manoeuvre.  

Stage One:  Give the helm to the non-car driver (children perform this manoeuvre best because they're not expecting car-like predictability)
Stage Two:  (And the hardest to overcome psychologically if you are a car driver.)  Having arrived at the section of the bank to which you want to moor stern-on, put the helm hard over AWAY from the bank AND LEAVE IT THERE.  DO NOT TOUCH THE WHEEL AGAIN!
Stage Three: push the morse control FAST FORWARD and almost immediately bring it back to NEUTRAL position.  The boat will start to swing its stern towards the bank.
Stage Four:  A touch of reverse to stop the boat going forward.
Stage Five:  FAST FORWARD again and immediately NEUTRAL.
This is repeated until the boat is perpendicular to the bank and SLOW REVERSE will tuck her neatly ready to step off.

If there are two of you on board, one at this time will still be at the wheel, whoever is at the stern ready to STEP (NEVER JUMP) OFF takes BOTH STERN ROPES with him/her.

The important thing at this stage is to get the ropes tied quickly BEFORE the boat swings alongside.  Ropes can be adjusted and tidied up at leisure.

And what to do when things go wrong?  And they surely will.  Have a plan prepared beforehand.  If you can throw both ropes back on to the boat so much the better, but the chances are that at least one will remain trailing in the water, let the skipper leave the moorings and UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES reverse until the ropes are out of the water.
Repeat all of the stages above and, if all else fails come alongside, tie the nearest rope to the bank to the mooring post with a fair bit of slack and let wind and/or tide swing the boat perpendicular to the bank.

It all sounds horribly complicated, but I PROMISE I have taught ten year old children to complete this manoeuvre successfully.

PLEASE bear in mind that, on the first ocasion you complete this manoeuvre successfully, there will be not a soul around to appreciate your boathandling skills.  The minute everything goes bottom up, there will be a cast of thousands willingly appreciating your misfortune.  This is an unwritten law of boathandling and we've all been there, seen the video and got the Tshirt.  Practice should make perfect, but like all the laws of nature.................

"There are old pilots.  There are bold pilots............."

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Hmmmm - makes mental note to oneself to avoid any stern-on only moorings during the holiday, unless there's thick fog around or everyone is having a siesta!! Playful Wink  Scared  Blush

P.S.  Gonna print "expilot's" guidance, fablon it (stickyback clear plastic to those who are un-initiated!!) and stick it with blue-tack in the cockpit.  Immediate action drill if it all goes pear shaped when I try it is:

1.  Remove forum logo signs from the boat windows Wink
2.  Speak in foreign language when others are watching
3.  Apply copious amounts of sun tan lotion to quickly reddening face and blame the sun (or sun lamp!)
4.  Blame the dog!!! Evil Grin

Regards

Chris

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Chris (the older one!)and Brenda (the younger one!)

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Thanks everyone for the advice, we will try and moor in designated stern on moorings as much as possible, and will report back, as its rather looking like we will now be taking out the new brinks rhapsody for a week, its all a bit of an adventure, as shes quite a prototype for the broads, and if at the last min we or the boatyard feel the river levels may be too high to get her easily under the bridges, we may have to do a last min swop onto their sheerline, brink of peace.
         will keep you posted!
               julia  Smile

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Dont worry about that ,if i get it spot on its usualy from a gut of wind or the tides in my favour ,seen the best of experts come unstuck,give it a go

finny

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Really useful advise - should make life less interesting for the watchers, for does this work with outdrives?

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Hi All
Ahem. on Friday i went to Boulters to have a word about some gear,made a superb job of reversing down the Dyke,had a natter like you do ,
Well what a complete mess up when i left,did not break any thing but,first timer or what. lol.
and that was sharp end first. Gasp

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