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boat-mad
Sep-29-2014 @ 12:27 PM                           Permalink
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Gutted.  Got up early for 7.00 start to leave the Ferry Inn at Reedham and arrive at Yarmouth for low water slack.  Can’t move yet due to thick fog.

Since moved onto Reedham Quay but still not clear enough to head for Breydon Water

Plan was Horning tonight and have reserved mooring at Hotel Wroxham for Tuesday day time and over night.  Was intending to return South Thursday morning and moor over night at Bramerton ready to hand boat back Friday morning.

Now moved on to The Fishermans Inn (more bad luck. It is closed due to lack of staff) awaiting bridge clearance at Yarmouth.  Not ideal as will be punching the tide for the whole journey.  

I believe B.A stopped boats crossing Breydon Water from the Yacht Station now unleashed I have never seen so many boats crossing Breydon Water from Yarmouth.

Will now most likely spend the night At The Acle Bridge Inn.

The reason this post is done in sections is that I have been unable to get a decent internet connection.


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Sep-29-2014 @ 12:37 PM                           Permalink
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Keep your chin up Alan and just keep in touch with the Rangers for the Bridge height.

dave

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Thanks Terry,

I did attempt to beat high water to GY but lost.

I tried calling the yacht station 4 times for a bridge height check but only got ansafone.

Will try again later.  Will probably head for GY about 15:00.

I now see that there was an existing post about the fog but have had such a nightmare getting a connection. I have been writing the post in Microsoft Word and as soon as I could get a connection pasted the text into a new post.

Cheers

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Well now we have rain - oh yippeee!!!

The Closure of Breydon I would have thought a Mariners Notice would be issued.    At least people would be aware as to what to do as an alternative regarding tides etc.  

Just hope everyone gets to wherever safely before the next lot comes down.



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Sep-29-2014 @ 1:35 PM                           Permalink
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Hi Alan I usually ring Breydon Bridge control,
+44 (0)1493 335 522.
They are always very helpful

Dave

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As a matter of interest, what would happen if this happened for several days and hire boats were trapped away from their home yards?

How would folks stand?


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In line with what has been said. I watched the web cam in Wroxham yesterday morning and at a certain yard a boat was asked to move away in the fog to clear the moorings there. I wonder how that would stand as well and you are told in the skippers handbook not to cruise in fog.

Trevor & Deirdre

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I wonder how they would stand with the Insurance if they told some one to move off in dense fog and an accident occured.

Dave

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That's an interesting question, TT. From the purely academic angle, if a landowner (boatyard or whoever) asked a boat to go (as they have a right to do), that boat is then trespassing and should leave. The skipper would then be bound by bye law 25 (Conduct of Vessels in Restricted Visibility). The onus then rests with the skipper.

I've found nothing in a certain hire yard's T&C which deals with the question of the late return of a fog-bound vessel. I would think that common sense would (or should) prevail, and each case be judged on its merit. If such a situation arose, the first thing to do would be to contact the boatyard and seek their advice, which might be 'stay where you are until it's safe to move', 'stay there and we'll come and get you'.

At all times, the responsibility of the safety of the vessel, and, more importantly, the crew, lies with the skipper.



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quote:

......"At all times, the responsibility of the safety of the vessel, and, more importantly, the crew, lies with the skipper."......


Absolutely agree, Paladine. However, on that basis surely the Master of a vessel can refuse to let go if his/her vessel is not equipped with the means to navigate safely in reduced visibility/dense fog etc.
On the other hand if pressurised to leave, before letting go, request a signed Letter of Indemnity - in order to cover all eventualities - from the person asking you to depart.

I can not find ( please correct if wrong ) any reference to a situation as such within the current Navigation Byelaws - merely Conduct of Vessels in Restricted Visibility.

Steve.

Corrected for typo.


Steve & Maggie.

Magellan (Westward 38)

Not quite an ancient mariner ..... though some say he was at sea before Pontius was a pilate !


This message was edited by Mercator on Sep-30-14 @ 11:43 AM

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