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elisamoose
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Check the sunrise times.You really don't want to be crossing in the dark!

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Just to confirm. First light/sunrise is estimated at 07:00 on Sun Nov 4th. 06:56 to be precise. Lets hope not a misty/foggy morning.  A link to more info.
http://www.broads-authority.gov.uk/boating/navigating/getting-through-great-yarmouth.html

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Its an interesting thread this one  Cool Indifference  
A couple of years ago I posted about going up the Bure
past the Yacht Station around half an hour AFTER
slack water and I was nearly hung from the yardarm!
If you go up too soon, you will fight the tide all
the way up the Bure.
Distance from YS to Ant mouth is about 17mls and the tide
difference is about 3hrs. (for round figures)
It follows then that if you can afford to wait a little
longer, you will have the tide with you all the way.
With the airdraft that you have, you should have no
problems with the bridges, but maybe fog at this time
of the year.

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Oct-28-2012 @ 12:10 PM                           Permalink
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quote:"we got to Gt. Yarmouth Yacht Station exactly 1  hour after low water slack, big mistake, should have been at least 1/2hr later. On the last part of the Yare just before the turn we  were doing 4.5mph, turned into the Bure and we were down to 1.5mph!!"


With all due respect, I think you may have meant after your 1 hour calculated time for slack water, rather than when it actually was on that day.


"Slack" by the very meaning of the word is when the tidal flow stops, just before it reverses. (Note, not the rise and fall, which is quite different there).

If you had arrived at Bure mouth at the genuine low water slack time for Yarmouth YS, (let alone an hour later), you would have encountered no current at all, and then a gradually increasing favourable current, as you made your way up the Bure.


I always aim for just before low water slack when transiting Northwards, because I'd rather not have anything "pushing" me along, in case I have to stop or go backwards to avoid someone. Indeed, I find an initial  1 mph adverse current gives much greater manouverability through the bridges and past the Yacht Station moorings.

The general consencus for slack at Bure mouth is Gorelston bar low water plus 1 hour for the YYS differential plus 1 hour for slack, (not forgetting also that many published tide tables also need correcting for GMT/BST as well).





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hi all,

thank you for the replies so far,

if i have read all correct slack water is 7.35am so we should time our arrival at the entrance to the river bure at 8.35 to 8.45 is that right?
which will mean the tide will be pushing us up the river bure is that right?
hopefully fog will not be a problem fingers crossed

looking forward to your replies and thanks again  
    

Gary

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Hi Broadsmad, personaly I agree with Strowager's comments much better to have a little tide against you just to aid steerage. Get through Yarmouth bridges against the end of the ebbing tide stop for a coffee at the yacht station and wait for the flood to take you up the Bure. And don't give Breydon a second thought its a doddle just follow the markers

Peter

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Hello Gary,

Working from the Broads Authority tide tables, slack water at Yarmouth Yacht Station will be between 6.51am and about 7.30am on the 3rd November with a hight of 0.28 metres on the 4th the times will be 7.25am to 7.40am at a height of 0.31 metres.

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As promised, here is 'Tidal Flow - The River Bure' and what happens when you have crossed Breydon Water and then turn to go up the River Bure as it is at full ebb.

Click here to watch

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That looked abit hairy. Little Goose has a 10hp Nanni Diesel - I'm not sure what her top speed would be but I guess we would struggle to make any headway in those conditions. Having said that I'm in no hurry to try as Ive lots of Northern rivers/dykes to explore as yet.

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Last time I stopped at the Yacht Station for 1/2 hour, they charged me a day rate!!! Will just plod past in future - I don't use that much diesel!!!! Smile

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We did that in June 2009. What an experience! Scared
As soon as we cleared the yellow post, we entered a
series of whirl pools and it was like driving on ice!
With the throttle set a full, we were slower than the 3
people casually walking up the quay!
It didn't improve for about another half hour.
Thanks Robin. It brought back memories Frown

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