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If you are leaving from the Berney Arms, you want to leave at as near the start of slack water as you can.
Whilst that will mean punching the tide for a bit on Breydon itself, you will have the benefit of the tide behind you up the Bure. Better a bit late than a bit early.
I've always liked the lines of the Alpha 31, very sleek. Which yard at Wayford are you going to? Eother is very handy for the Wayford Bridge inn Smile
I wish you luck finding company for the crossing, but honestly, it's not the nightmare that people might think.

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Good advice by MM.
I would make sure i arrive at Yarmouth about 1 hour AFTER slack water as it is easier to go up the Bure with the tide.


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I';d agree don't go up the Bure from Yarmouth agaisnt the ebbing tide.

Tomorrow I will be posting a video of what happens when you do just that, and it is a bit spectacular to say the least.

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Hi

Here here, better late than early as the ebbing tide out of the Bure is really strong and it makes it hard going up the Bure.

Last crossing over, after the CinC well 3 weeks after Smile , we got to Gt. Yarmouth Yacht Station exactly 1  hour after low water slack, big mistake, should have been at least 1/2hr later. On the last part of the Yare just before the turn we  were doing 4.5mph, turned into the Bure and we were down to 1.5mph!!Now I know Bounty's with the hydraulic drive struggle against the tide but I thought "oh no, I'm going to have to wait at the Yacht Station" and I hate stopping there.

Fortunately we were pulled over by the Rangers, I thought I'm only doing 1.5mph!! but what they wanted was to ask if I had any Jump leads!!!  LOL. Yeah I have some, what for? "Out engine won't start", it was the Patrol Boat! Managed to jump start it and that wasted some time, enough to get the tide to turn. A nice outcome for all  Smile .

Remember better late than early and have the tide on your back than front.

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Check the sunrise times.You really don't want to be crossing in the dark!

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Just to confirm. First light/sunrise is estimated at 07:00 on Sun Nov 4th. 06:56 to be precise. Lets hope not a misty/foggy morning.  A link to more info.
http://www.broads-authority.gov.uk/boating/navigating/getting-through-great-yarmouth.html

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Its an interesting thread this one  Cool Indifference  
A couple of years ago I posted about going up the Bure
past the Yacht Station around half an hour AFTER
slack water and I was nearly hung from the yardarm!
If you go up too soon, you will fight the tide all
the way up the Bure.
Distance from YS to Ant mouth is about 17mls and the tide
difference is about 3hrs. (for round figures)
It follows then that if you can afford to wait a little
longer, you will have the tide with you all the way.
With the airdraft that you have, you should have no
problems with the bridges, but maybe fog at this time
of the year.

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quote:"we got to Gt. Yarmouth Yacht Station exactly 1  hour after low water slack, big mistake, should have been at least 1/2hr later. On the last part of the Yare just before the turn we  were doing 4.5mph, turned into the Bure and we were down to 1.5mph!!"


With all due respect, I think you may have meant after your 1 hour calculated time for slack water, rather than when it actually was on that day.


"Slack" by the very meaning of the word is when the tidal flow stops, just before it reverses. (Note, not the rise and fall, which is quite different there).

If you had arrived at Bure mouth at the genuine low water slack time for Yarmouth YS, (let alone an hour later), you would have encountered no current at all, and then a gradually increasing favourable current, as you made your way up the Bure.


I always aim for just before low water slack when transiting Northwards, because I'd rather not have anything "pushing" me along, in case I have to stop or go backwards to avoid someone. Indeed, I find an initial  1 mph adverse current gives much greater manouverability through the bridges and past the Yacht Station moorings.

The general consencus for slack at Bure mouth is Gorelston bar low water plus 1 hour for the YYS differential plus 1 hour for slack, (not forgetting also that many published tide tables also need correcting for GMT/BST as well).





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hi all,

thank you for the replies so far,

if i have read all correct slack water is 7.35am so we should time our arrival at the entrance to the river bure at 8.35 to 8.45 is that right?
which will mean the tide will be pushing us up the river bure is that right?
hopefully fog will not be a problem fingers crossed

looking forward to your replies and thanks again  
    

Gary

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Hi Broadsmad, personaly I agree with Strowager's comments much better to have a little tide against you just to aid steerage. Get through Yarmouth bridges against the end of the ebbing tide stop for a coffee at the yacht station and wait for the flood to take you up the Bure. And don't give Breydon a second thought its a doddle just follow the markers

Peter

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Hello Gary,

Working from the Broads Authority tide tables, slack water at Yarmouth Yacht Station will be between 6.51am and about 7.30am on the 3rd November with a hight of 0.28 metres on the 4th the times will be 7.25am to 7.40am at a height of 0.31 metres.

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