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Sep-22-2012 @ 12:08 AM                           Permalink
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Hello all

I am absolutely in love with Norfolk,the broads and boating. I hire at least 3 times per year.
I have been seriously thinking of purchasing my own boat. I looked at an ex hire boat for £24.500 the other week. Would i be better buying an ex hire boat or looking for an ex privately owned vessell.

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Dave

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One six and two three's spring to mind.  Or just how long is a piece of string.

A lot of boats our there currently on the market have been both in previous lives. started life as a hire boat, then gone into private ownership then on for sale.

With a potential budget of £24k you are well in.

Have you seen this serious woody for sale at £15k? with your potential budget you'd easily have enough to complete her and then have a boat worth £40k plus

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quote:"Would i be better buying an ex hire boat or looking for an ex privately owned vessell."


It's a good question that's been raised on here a few times in the past.


The thought of "Ex hire" can understandably make one wonder if it's been thrashed, but with boats, the lifespan compared with say, a car, is quite different. They last for many decades, wood or fibreglass.  The insides can get "tired" and may need sprucing up, but the engine and running gear have a very long life if maintained regularly. To that extent, An ex-hire boat can be a better bet than some privately owned boats, which may have had irregular servicing, and may also have been laying dormant for long periods on their moorings.


As Griff said, with your budget of £24,000 you are "well in", with a very large choice here secondhnad. The entry point is around £12,000.

You do need to budget carefully for the ongoing maintenance and standing running costs though. Mooring rental is around £1,500 per annum, and tolls and insurance are relatively cheaper, at around £500 pa.

Maintenance of glassfibre hulls and superstructures is much cheaper than wooden, and the availability and choice is much greater.



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Morning Dave,

Our first boat had always been in private ownership. A grand girl , but we could not get under all the bridges, so we were restricted. Our second boat is an ex hire boat, built for the broads . There is the clue, look for a boat that is built for the broads. Try to find one  - on original gel coat -  then you will be sure of no hull repairs. Have her surveyed -

then make her your own. Best of luck

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Steve & Maggie.

Not quite an ancient mariner ..... though some say he was at sea before Pontius was a pilate !


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Whether going for a woody or tupperware

There is the clue, look for a boat that is built for the broads.

Is sound advice.  Advice you will not go wrong with imho


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There are advantages and disadvantages to both ex-hire and private boats.

Looking at former hire boats, the big disadvantage is that they're likely to have been sold because they were no longer bringing in enough money. This may just mean that they're dated, or that they're due for a big refit/new engine/other large expense.

On the other hand, they will (hopefully) have had a regular maintenance regime, may be very well specified compared to private boats of the same type, and will have been subject to the more strict requirements of the hire boat BSS.

Probably the best thing to do is to find a boat you like, then get it surveyed (do I have to mention that I give a discount for forum members?)

Brendan Burrill Dip Comp. DipMarSur (YS) GradIIMS

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(do I have to mention that I give a discount for forum members?)

NO - You don't.

But I'm glad you did and quite right too imho


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Our first motor cruiser was a Hampton Safari that had been in hire for 17 years with Maffetts. She was built like a tank. Very robust. We refitted the interior and had ten years fun with her. Original gel coat is not essential. People like LBBY can re-gel hulls and superstructures. An old hire boat is likely to have a painted hull but may still have the original gel on the superstructure.

Our second one is a Broom Skipper that we bought on the Severn and brought back here. We have spent a lot bringing her up to the standard we want - and the pain isn't over yet.

Get a survey and budget for the refit expense. Hire boats may be rough round the edges, but they will have been regularly serviced and will be robust. You are likely to need to spend money to refit them to private standards. You don't have to do it all at once.

Spend some time looking and get a feel for the type of boat that will suit you. Stick to mainstream models which are more likely to find a buyer when you want to sell.

Do buy a Broads design unless you have a definite need to take the boat elsewhere. Some of the nicest parts are upstream of low bridges.

Phil

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As a hire fleet operator and not a boat owner we will be sure to miss another hirer going over to private ownership.

However, as an outsider looking in on this particular topic might I suggest you buy under budget and DO NOT spend big in the first year or two of ownership. The first boat is usually changed quite quickly as 'living' with the boat may highlight problems in layout, size or style which never occurred to you before purchase.

Save on the extra expense of personalising the boat (which doesn't usually increase the value) until you are absolutely certain you've bought the right one.

The only real winner in the boat ownership game is the sales agent.

Darren

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Sound advice from Griff & Co. I bought a sea boat with auto pilot,Radar, two massive engines etc etc to use on the broads ?!! Love the Broads but also love my boat so I'm stuck. Buy a boat designed for the Broads Happy boating.

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