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As a new boat owner I started out by buying several of the RYA books to go over some basics before going out on the water, and to have as a reminder once I had been out.  I started with the Day Skippers Handbook and then I got the Inland Waterways book (albeit the 2003 edition, so maybe the newer edition is better).

I was really surprised that the Day Skippers manual had a lot on standard anchoring but little on mooring, thus the  purchase of the Inland Waterways one.

Perhaps this has changed in the newer edition (please tell me if it has) but there were a number of things about the inland waterways book that troubled me.

First, the good.  I liked the size and the diagrams.  If there was a version that was Broads specific, or even heavily Broads weighted then I would say it should be on every hire boat and given out with a boat to every new purchaser. The size and the presentation (a lot of pictures) makes it easy to understand.  However,  note I said Broads (or even river) specific!  

The version I have is weighted very heavily to canals.  This led to some of the advice, if applied to rivers or the Broads to be potentially dangerous.  Specifically, I am referring to the one place where the guidance for MOB (man overboard) is to tell them to try and stand up - correct me if I am wrong but this would seem to be very risky if the bottom is 1-2 feet of mud!  

The advice on bridges in this version is mostly aimed at manually operated bridges over canals, not how to deal with the bridges at the Broads.  Many of the diagrams on mooring, turning, etc. are more aimed at long canal boats (though others are covered briefly), and so on.

An equivalent book, aimed more at Broads cruising I think would be extremely helpful.  It would not necessarily need to be RYA but in this day of digital printing it also would not be outrageously difficult to pull pieces out of various books and make a specific version, and thus TWO markets (canal and river).

For example, I would like to see more on mooring - what are spring lines, how are they put on and why.  How to deal with side mooring in different conditions, how to do stern mooring (not mentioned at all).  It would be good to see something about mud weights other than 'used in areas with little to no current' (again, clearly canal centric) and how to get them up when stuck.

Does such a handbook exist for the broads?  

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but remember there are a lot of things like a silly answer.
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Errr is there still a softback book called "Broadsmanship?" I bought it in the 1970's in Lathams Books Dept, then think it was 75p lol It had a host of information and diagrams and taught me how to get off a mooring when the wind was hugging you to the side, not forgetting passage through GY at Slack water etc. I found it invaluable in my early years cruising The Broads.

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Nice find.  The book is called Broadsmanship and is available used.....

Thanks!

I still think a modified RYA that is less canal centric and more Broads centric would be good.  Yes, the forum is good but the gems that could be pulled together are not even in FAQs.

There is still the issue of MOB and getting the person on board in the absence of a boat ladder (with wise options of an emergency boarding ladder or swim step fenders (if they work)) and, for example dog overboard currently being discussed.  How often have people gone in the water by accident trying to retrieve their dog?

But, as a beginner, I am the last person to write such a book.  I would be interested in volunteering to pull one together if there is interest by forumites in providing the information to put in one....

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Many thanks for the link to Broadsmanship - an excellent little book.  Too bad it is out of print but it is available used.  I can see it could use some updating and am surprised it is not still available and on every hire boat.

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Time to declare an interest....have a look at www.broadstraining.co.uk. We are a Norfolk based RYA Inland (& coastal) motor boat training centre - including the Inland Waterways Helmsmans Course - which we are happy to run on "your" boat.

The current book still covers lots about Canal Locks, but naturally, the Courses we run on the Broads concentrate on the type of boating we live with from day to day here.  Re the MOB - a rope ladder at least 1 metre longer than the freeboard of the boat, with sufficient weight on the lowest rung so it sinks (we have not evolved with the right length arms otherwise!).

A Rivers & Broads IWHC book would probably be s subset of the present book, perhaps with a little more about strong streams?  I am happy to feed back ideas to the RYA - what would you like to see included?  

John

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The correct manouvers when arriving in a motor boat at a sailing boat(single) and the correct manouvers when arriving at a fleet of sailing boats on a river!
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Guess what - you can get Broadsmanship from Amazon from 14p (Plus postage) http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/0214202852/ref=dp_olp_used_mbc/277-8186287-0864110?ie=UTF8&condition=used

Ordered mine Smile

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