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saintclyde
Mar-24-2012 @ 12:06 PM                           Permalink
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Hi there,

Thanks for everyone who gave me advice on a route from Wroxham, it was all invaluable advice.
Am afraid I have a couple of further questions, where the answers most prob lie somewhere on the forum, but I cant seem to find them?
The first being mooring, can you moor up along the bank anywhere (prividing it doesnt say it is private?)and can you moor up in the middle of the river at nighttime if you wished too as well?(if so, do you have to have lights on)
Secondly I have seen that we need a 12v car lead to charge our phones etc, what exactly is that as I am a little confused as what I need to buy?
Thank you so much and I really can not wait, esp as the weather seems to be getting better by the day


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well to start with, there is no such thing as a stupid question, the only stupid question is the one you dont ask.
the car charger thing is the one that plugs into the cigarette lighter thingie in your car, anything else and the hire yard will be able to give you an adaptor to convert to that. aside from that most boats have an inverter (even if it is just to run the tv) so there is usually a mains socket for the tv that can be 'borrowed'
remember that this will drain the battery if you use it without the engine running, so the best time to charge your phone on the  inverter is while you are cruising (when you probably wont have the tv on anyway). other than that, if you have any queries, give he boatyard a ring, they will know for sure what each individual boat can provide, a lot have the car lighter sockets available, a few have the caravan twin sockets, which need an adaptor lead (supplied by the boatyard. just remember to ask before you leave.
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There are some places along the banks that you can moor, as you say as long as it does not say 'Private  - No Mooring', etc.   However, much of the bankside is reeds or trees (not like on the canals, for example), so not very suitable for mooring.

No - it would not be considered appropriate to moor in the middle of a river;  however, in a broad it is accepted practice, and you don't normally need to show lights at night.  Make sure the boat is as near to stationary as you can get it, and preferably pointing roughly towards where the wind is coming from before you lower the mudweight over the bow.

For your phones, etc, a 12V car charger from Tesco (probably just over a Fiver) is what you need.

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thanks Grendel and Jeremy, much appreciated

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would definitely suggest you moor alongside at night,  particularly as you are new to cruising. Illness,  change in weather or fire on board would enable you to reach safet easier.

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quote:"...... No - it would not be considered appropriate to moor in the middle of a river;  however, in a broad it is accepted practice......."

But if there is a navigation channel marked through the broad (with posts), such as Barton and Hickling Broads, please moor OUTSIDE the channel. This also applies during the day.

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I would not recommend you navigate outside the marked channels on any stretch of water unless you know what you are doing. These posts normally mark shallow water. On most parts of Barton and Hickling the water is deep enough for the average cruiser outside the posts, though even here there are some parts which are quite shallow. However in other places such as Rockland Broad and Breydon Water the water outside the marked posts is VERY shallow and you may easily run aground.

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We have been to the extremities of most of the broads, except Breydon, which on occassions I have even seen the Breydon water posts surrounded by mud, not water.

We have a depth sounder and an outboard so we can easily tilt the engine, so we know where it is generally safe, BUT we have had hire craft moor close to us and of course they run aground long before they reach us, so have a look around, don't moor where you see any old boat, they may have a draft of only 18" most hire craft approach 3 feet.

Hickling is shallow ie less than 3feet, within a 100 yards of the reeds, all over, there are places even shallower than that, in other locations, except the marked channel, which is curved for a reason, we often cut the corner BUT it is often just over 2 feet deep, depending on watre level.

If you are amongst water weeds, lilies, and some of the parrots feather, then these like to grow in a depth of water of less than 2 feet.
So be aware. Horsey is like this. If you see a swan feeding off the bottom .... Assume. Less than 2 feet of water also.
Ranworth, ie Malthouse broad, deep up to 50 yards of the shore approx.

NOW this information is only a guide, there are places marked off on the broads with posts and buoys that mark shallow water.
It is your responsibility to determine the depth and safety of your mooring. Always refer to the boats hand book, if in doubt... Don't moor, and in strong winds, the mud weight might drag, taking you deeper into the shallows. So moor on the windward side ie your stern towards the deeper water.

best regards, Richard.
I can't wait to be back on our boat on
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