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I recently purchased some more old amateur cine film of the Broads, this time dated to 1930 and 1931. The film shows a family holiday on board the wherry yacht Norada but also has some wonderful footage of the 1930 Beccles regatta and the 1931 Horning regatta.

As I've stated in the past, my knowledge of Broads sailing craft is woefully lacking, but I managed to grab a few still from the film before I had to stop using the PC after it developed some major issues. I've posted some of those still on the Broadland Memories Blog in the hope that one of the experts out there may be able to help with identifying the class of boats seen racing. I think that the Horning shots may be white boats and that those seen at Beccles are possibly brown boats? ..... but stand to be corrected as I'm really not at all certain!

You can find those stills here:

http://www.broadlandmemories.co.uk/blog/2011/12/wherry-yacht-norada-1931-cine-film/



Many thanks!!


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Thats another one for Jamie Campbell me thinks.

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The white ones are Y.B.O.D's, the dark ones are B.O.D's.

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Hi,
Does the different rig define which boat is which? Most  but not all of the boats in the first picture are gunter rigged, the spar at the top of the sail is pulled up almost vertical leaving no room for a topsail in the triangle.
The later pictures are mainly gaff rigged the spar does not go vertical and a triangle is left where a gaff topsail can be set.
As the same boat can have either rig it is not a definitive test though the one design tag for the boats should ensure the rigs are the same.
I am sure the experts will answer this.

David

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BODS, Broads One Designs, are gaff rigged. Y.BODS, Yare and Bure One Designs, are gunter. Whilst both have had trials with marconi rigs both retain their original rigs.

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The hull shapes are also a big distinguishing difference, I would have thought ...

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Whilst I hesitate to correct the oracle Evil Grin , the second Horning picture contains an infiltrator Scared  in the form of a Great Yarmouth One Design!

A quick check puts the following boats in this picture:
38 – Wood White
34 - Buff Tip
4  - Sonia
H3 - Great Yarmouth One Design (name?)
15 - Butterfly
36 - Brimstone
27 – Vanessa

Details of the YBOD can be found here http://ybod.org.uk/boat-records/ and undoubtedly someone (Peter / Jamie Campbell?) will remember the name of GYOD No.3

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Many thanks for the confirmation of classes seen in the photos. I had struggled to read one of the sail numbers, but can see that is indeed H3 which I think is Cigarette? Having watched the film through again at the weekend H1 (Baby) can also be seen in the Horning footage.



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I can help with the GYOD.  she sits not 20 yards from where I do.  Her name is Cigarette.


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