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billj
May-02-2011 @ 4:49 PM                           Permalink
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Hi have just spent the weekend dodging all the speeding boats from Barnes & Richardsons,Question are the hirers made aware of the limits when picking up craft?.Good example 2 craft from barnes two abreast down the bure flat out

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May-02-2011 @ 5:26 PM                           Permalink
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Bill, quite frankly the rivers are not policed correctly, All that seems to happen if seen by a patrol is the speed limit "Ping Pong" bat is waved at them.
The trouble is how can you expect volunteer crews to confront an eight berth boat, most likely occupied by ten louts who are the worst for wear.
In these straightened times it will never happen but the launches need to be under the control of Broads Beat, £1000 pound fines handed out for outragious speeding and if all crew are deemed intoxicated the boat confiscated.
Has anyone noticed the new craze of nudging the boat infront by these idiots, it is only a matter of time before one goes over the side and kops a prop.
With virtually no boats fitted with fiddles to the hobs a serious scalding is also a likely accident, but speeding is not just hirers, an ex-hire craft fully fitted with Nav Lights crossed Barton undercover of darkness last week that hit us like a tidal wave.
With regards to the hire yards at busy times they just want to get the boats away, they are just not bothered what happens afterwards unless it costs them money.

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May-02-2011 @ 5:54 PM                           Permalink
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I'm not one to junp to the defence of the BA but in this case I will as your statement is inflammatory and quite inaccurate. There is indeed at least one ranger who IS trying to make a difference. He was extremely busy over the weekend in Wroxham and Horning doing his level best to tackle the prize pillocks who think there's only one setting for the throttle...full!

Moreover, he's not averse to personally tackling the lowlife types who think there is safety in numbers and that also think that their animalistic tendencies will allow them to get away with transgressions for that reason.

He made a real difference to the areas in which he was patrolling and credit is most definitely due to him.






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May-02-2011 @ 6:41 PM                           Permalink
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Well done to that Ranger. He is obviously very conciencious but he can't do it alone and I wish in no way to appear inflammatory as I have always supported the BA on this forum on many subjects. One of the major problems with these antisocial groups is that many boat users find their behaviour intimidating and frightening. This is not fair on families who have brought their children or to older folk and lets face it, we the toll payers. Knowingly hiring boats to this type of party shows a total disregard by the hire companies for their core customers. Letting out 2 and even 3 boat to travel together shows complete irrsponsibility.


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May-02-2011 @ 6:46 PM                           Permalink
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I have always found the worst for speeding are privately owned "bling" boats, they also have the potential for much greater speed than most hire craft.

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May-02-2011 @ 6:56 PM                           Permalink
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I don’t see how hire companies can differentiate between “good ones “and “bad ones” and this extends far further than large groups. I have seen 3 or 4 Barnes boats crewed by a young church group and they were as good as gold. I have seen stag parties whose behaviour was exemplary but yet have seen families and couples who leave a lot to be desired.

And to be quite honest I don’t think it is the hire companies responsibility to enforce the rules and regulations, make people aware yes, enforce no.

And I also don’t think it is fair to say “all the speeding boats from Barnes & Richardsons”. They are possibly the two largest hire fleets on the Broads so the likelihood is that you will see a lot of their boats. Not sure how you know they were “flat out” either


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May-02-2011 @ 7:08 PM                           Permalink
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hi all ,
i agree with dibbler , and saw this ranger over our easter break , this ranger bewteen wroxham and horning was really doing he's job , pulling anything that doing over the limit , out of date tolls , no tolls ,and again this w'end with rangers at barton slowing the richardsons rush / dash across barton to irstead sholes ! this does prove with what i heard last w/end that they have to start to show there presence / job ,and they certainly are now !

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May-02-2011 @ 7:49 PM                           Permalink
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As a hirer it's not just groups of lads etc but example of last year for us leaving Stalham.
Loaded up and parked up and got the sign off to leave without a test run.
The woman on the boat at the side of us saw me undo the ropes and shouted down the boat go go go & undid the ropes and jumped on. I took the wheel and set off. the boat at me side was now sideways on the mooring due to throwing the ropes on and didn't check the engine was running etc.
Across Barton on way to Ludham I found I was been chased down by this woman trying to pass. At the first chance she was at my side flatout. Turned out the 2nd boat behind me was there 2nd boat, he got that close I got myself a beer out and offered him one over the back laughing.
We meet up again in Wroxham yard and asked the guy what the race was and he said sorry it's the wife it's been like this all week. While we were talking she said are you coming as she undid the ropes!!!




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May-02-2011 @ 8:17 PM                           Permalink
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I was not implying that all boats that speed are from the mentioned fleets just that these appear to be the most frequent culprits,perhaps because of the size of the fleets, as regards to the two craft from Barnes I can only assume from the wash created & the fact that we had to take evasive action to avoid a collision that they were flat out & racing & if they weren't flat out then perhaps hirers should look at introducing speed/rev limiters.

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May-02-2011 @ 8:39 PM                           Permalink
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Come on now lets not kid ourselves, there are as many privately owned boats belting down the river well in excess of the speed limit as there are hired ones.

Also lets not stereotype either, not all of the hired boats being driven irresponsibly are crewed by young people. Just as many of those overtaking and being driven  irresponsibly have the senior member of a family group at the helm eg a guy of about 60.





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