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davegtx
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Hi there all. Firstly want to say that the forum is a great little resource and is proving invaluable at the moment!

I'm 5 days away from embarking on a 3-day trip for a stag do on the broads. There are 13 of us on 2 cruisers (kindly supplied by blakes, wroxham) and we are doing the exceptionally unoriginal 'Pirate' theme. Now, before mass 'tut-tut'ing erupts, we are all in our late-20's/early 30's and the stag himself is in his 40's. Myself and the Stag both manage city centre pubs and are desperate not to fall into the same loutish behaviour we put up with every weekend!

Having said that, it is a stag do and we are planning to indulge in some fashion Wink

The main problem I'm having at the moment is clearing up the issue of 'drink-driving'. We will, of course, obey the law to the letter (we do have a met police officer in the party) but I am finding it difficult to find a difinitive description of the law!  

Any help finding a site or page with the actual regulations would be much appriciated as none of us want to get caught out unwittingly and have it ruin our pals last weekend of 'freedom'.

We're all really looking forward to our weekend on the water and I promise we'll look after it!



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Feb-27-2011 @ 12:39 PM                           Permalink
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can you keep us all posted as to your where abouts so we all no where not to go pls

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First off, Welcome to the NBF with all its foibles

We too are on a stag weekend (Only ours is commencing Thursday night through to the Sunday) Starting out from Stalham.

Right the drinking thing - YES PLEASE  Smile

Just as one can get chrged with being drunk in charge of a push bike, or drunk in charge of oneself for that matter, one can also be charged with being drunk in charge of a boat and quite rightly so imho.

However there is no breathalyser for boats or their helms where recreational boating is concerned.

The most sensible on here will probably state something like leave one person in charge of the helm / mooring / berthing evolutions that is off the alcohol until cruising for the day is completed.
Which is of couse good advice.

However in reality . . . .   Evil Grin

Ok here's what in reality happens onboard 'B.A'

When I'm onboard, invariably I'm the skipper i/c of 'B.A' and her crew.

During the summer cruising months when out on the system do I engage in a cold one whilst underway between destinations? Of course I do, more than just a couple as well if I'm honest.

It's all about moderation and knowing ones limits. I've never being drunk in charge of 'B.A' but there have been many occasions where I have had a few chilled ones during the day and I'm in charge of 'B.A' and long may it continue as far as I'm concerned.

So my advice to you is nominate a skipper that although enjoyin a drink will not get himself callide or plastered whilst underway or before berthing up for the night.


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Feb-27-2011 @ 12:45 PM                           Permalink
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As regards drink, the byelaw in question is number 84:


quote:"......
A person shall not navigate a vessel whilst under the influence of drink or drugs to such an extent as to be incapable of taking proper control of the vessel.
......."



Although technically the Merchant Shipping Act has been amended to impose the same limit on leisure boaters as on commercial sailors (which is the same as that for driving), the relevant part of the act is not yet in force.

In practice this means that the helm (and others who're involved in handling the boat when mooring up, etc) need to be reasonably sober. As I explain to people when I do handovers this means that a pint with your lunch isn't a problem (unless you're a lightweight near-teetotaller like me), but downing half a dozen tinnies and getting behind the wheel is. Take it easy, enjoy your time on the rivers, and save the serious boozing for when you've moored up and you should be fine.

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Feb-27-2011 @ 1:06 PM                           Permalink
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Davegtx,  forgot to mention, keep an eye posted as we may well appear over the same bit of water.

I have no idea where we will be as ZTD is i/c of our passage planning and venues for the weekend

Graham1 - Lovely warm welcome that is to a new member who has expressed a desire to behave sensibly and asks questions related.  Shall I ask ZTD to post our whereabout too so you can avoid the likes of us?


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Crumbs - I hope the pubs on the Broads are braced for all this merriment.    I think I can hear all the crates being stacked as we speak.

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Welcome to the forum. I remember a friend of mine was mooring up at a pub when he heard someone ask him,

"Are you allowed to drink when you're on a boat?"

He looked up and replied,

  "Allowed??, ALLOWED???? It's compulsary old boy! Ruddy compulsary."

He too was an officer of the law!

Honesty and Integrity ... When you can fake those, you've cracked it.

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ha ha after being on the wrong end off a few stag do,s last summer i think i got the right to steer clear

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Feb-27-2011 @ 4:35 PM                           Permalink
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WOW!

Thanks to all for the welcome, as I've mentioned, the forum has been invaluable thus far and i will of course post some form of review of our trip after we've all made it back to dry land!

To those of you who have expressed some concerns in regards to our little jaunt, fear not! I'm sure it's fair to say that most of you have at some stage encountered some less than savoury characters on stag do's etc, but all I can do is try and reassure you that 'we aint like that!' No less than 4 of our crew (including myself) are licensee's who very much value their government-granted permission to sell alcohol, and we are all very cautious when it comes to our behaviour, especially when alcohol is involved!

Yes, we are on a stag do and we will be out for a memorable time but the whole point of visiting the broads is to avoid the usual stag destinations (prague/budabest/anywhere is southern spain) and the stereotypical 'Brits abroad' mentality.

However, if I have failed to convince you of our promised good behaviour, we will be setting off from Wroxham on friday the 4th and making our way to Norwich (or as close as we can get to) via Great Yarmouth. We will be easy to spot as one of the boats will have a 6 foot parrot on board and a slightly shorter (but fatter) crocodile on the other!

We'll be gone on Monday Wink

Again, thanks to you all for your help on the 'drinking question' and if any of you think there is anything else we should know before we set sail, please feel free to give me the heads up, I'm sure we'll need it!



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Wroxham to Norwich and back in 3 days! Thats pushing it a bit. Not much time for stopping to have a drink methinks!!!! Playful Wink  boat-sail

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