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Are you afloat over Christmas?

Oulton Broad is frozen well up to the North Bay, best avoided.

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The Broads is NOT a National Park.

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I would love this thread to be updated regularly as we
are coming down 23rd and returning to Lancs on the
2nd/3rd Jan.  Hoping to get a bit of cruising, yet keep
the boat safe - won't take any risks though.

Thank you.

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Lisa, I suspect that the rivers themselves will remain open. The Broads themselves and moorings are the likeliest to freeze. You moor at Brundall don't you? I'm already iced in.

See:
http://www.broads-authority.gov.uk/news/press-releases/2010/broads-winter-weather-watch.html

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The Broads is NOT a National Park.

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I'm not risking it, not after last New year when the ant was frozen from the north end of Barton Broad.  We had a right game getting back into the wet shed.  I'm due down onboard in Jan but won't be taking her out of the shed if the dreaded ice is about.


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Lisa, will keep a look out for you as we hope to be down next Sunday, coming back New Year's Day.
Found the ice that Griff was talking about last Christmas as we came on to Barton broad, definitely a no-go area when it is this cold.

All the best Ted.

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If anyone does find themselves traveling through Ice, please be aware that it's not only your own craft that is faces potential hull damage.

Any craft moored nearby also face waterline damage from the large moving plates. This is especially the case in mooring basins and Marinas, where the owners usually ban any boat movements during icy periods (and rightly so).

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Thank you Peter, thank you Ted and thank you all.

I suspect we will be going nowhere on the boat, but we'll be warm inside it and can make some trips in the car (I hope).

It seems so odd because over here on the west coast we have no snow, no rain, the pavements and roads are dry, though it was -1 according to my car this morning. A lovely frosty morning, but my windscreen was clear because of lack of moisture.

The boat has been moved up near the boat lift so I suspect it will be iced in.

And I love the quote on that website Peter:

“ There are different things to consider in winter than in summer as conditions may change rapidly. There are fewer people about on the water so the winter boater and angler may have to be self reliant.”

That sums it up rather doesn't it?  People on the Broads are willing to help - when they are there!

Nevermind, our first Christmas cruise, though likely to be stationary, will nonetheless be interesting.

Lis

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quote:"......
If anyone does find themselves traveling through Ice, please be aware that it's not only your own craft that is faces potential hull damage.  Any craft moored nearby also face waterline damage from the large moving plates. This is especially the case in mooring basins and Marinas, where the owners usually ban any boat movements during icy periods (and rightly so).
......."



Possibly, although I have yet to see hard evidence that this is a common or significant problem, either on the Broads or elsewhere on the UK's inland waterways.

Certainly, despite Freedom being at the end of a dyke that was well frozen over there were no issues with breaking the ice to allow customers to leave on their holidays, as this blog post shows - the only casualty being the icebreaker herself, mainly due to the rather exposed propeller (and she took on water very slowly, sinking overnight before the problem was discovered).

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"Possibly, although I have yet to see hard evidence that this is a common or significant problem, either on the Broads or elsewhere on the UK's inland waterways."

I'm afraid it's a recognised problem on Canals, where many moorers deploy "ice boards" as protection against steel narrowboats forcing there way through the ice and damaging canalside moorers with  wooden and GRP hulls.

Not a problem on Broads Rivers (when they ice), but very inconsiderate in narrow mooring basins. Moored craft take the full brunt of the abrasions, since it is against their sides, rather than the usually  thicker bow section of the boats causing the damage.

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quote:"......
I'm not risking it, not after last New year when the ant was frozen from
the north end of Barton Broad.  We had a right game getting back into
the wet shed.
......."



Ah! You mean this - And you think you struggled after I'd single-
handedly broken it all and cleared a path for you just the day before!

I'm still hoping to get out sometime after boxing day until just after
New Year, but as said above -
quote:"......
There are different things to consider in winter than in summer as
conditions may change rapidly
......."



I shall remain hopeful but will have to make a decision at the time.

I know one thing, if I suspect overnight freezing like that again, (as all
that ice was formed in just one night!) I shall try to make sure I'm back
in the shed before it can happen!

Pete

Just over six months now until the
nights start drawing in, and winter will
be on it's way once more!



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