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Do we have any Waveney times yet?

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I haven't heard from Peter, but I would have thought an 8 am start from the yacht station

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I had reckoned on an 8.00 muster at the Yacht Station and an 8.30 departure. At 5 m.p.h. it should be a comfortable journey. I say 5 m.p.h. because for some of the smaller boats that is their probable comfortable cruising speed. Mind you, should the tide care to help, and the boys in floppy blue hats be elsewhere . . . . . . . . . .

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May I suggest that to settle everyones nerves and get us into the spirit of following polite suggestions from those who know what they are doing that GRIFF resurrects his excellent mooring evolution post and reposts it here so we can all read it again and again until those like me that need study time are familiar with it.
Even then I am going to print it and have it with me in the wheelhouse just in case of brain fade with 30 odd other skippers watching me... No pressure people...

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Resurrected....

Thanks again to Griff for the excellent instructions.

There seems to be a few questions concerning mudweighting and some of you stating you only have the one mudweight.

Well the good news is that you only need ONE mudweight, if you do have two mudweights onboard though, so much the better.

This is how is works:-

The Wherry 'Albion' will already be in position on her mudweights with her bows pointing towards the beach.

All craft to deploy fenders.

Then we need two craft, large-ish heavyweights at around 40ft to Port and Stbd of the Albion that have two mudwiights each with both of them deployed at bow and stern. Bow and stern ropes secured to Albion. I would suggest Brandywine and 'B.A' to fulfil these roles

Then in no particular order - craft to moor either side using head and stern ropes and alternate mudweights, i.e -

Approach the 'raft' from astern, that is to say with YOUR bows (That's the pointy bit) pointing towards the beach. (That's the terra firma stuff with sand on it) If mooring to stbd of the raft have your PORT head and stern ropes ready to tie onto the craft you are coming alongside of.  Look at the craft you are now moored next to, if their mudweight is deployed over THEIR bow, then you deploy your mudweight over the stern of your craft.

It should therefore go without saying that if their mudweight is deployed over the stern of their craft you deploy your mudweight over the bow of your craft and so on.

If mooring to Port of the raft the only difference being that you will need your Stbd head and stern mooring ropes to hand.

Now this bit is important - where mudweighting is concerned, helms rarely need to take heed of the tide, it is the wind that concerns them and the usual practise is bring the bows into wind then deploy mudweights over the bow.

In this case we have to ignore the wind direction as we do need to have the raft in a single line about 50m off the beach in a straight-ish line facing the beach for the photo shoot.

So, when you are approaching the raft from astern of it as previously mentioned, if you make a hash of it (And there is no pressure here as there will be only 100+ pairs of eyes watching you) KEEP GOING AHEAD come round and have another go but move out one or two places so as to allow the craft following you to take the slot that you had your eye on.

This will stop any queu's building up as craft raft up.

Some of you skippers may now be wondering what happens if the scenario occurs of a 'Little-un' being between two 'Big-uns'  -  No problem, the outer 'Big-un' simply passes their head/stern ropes over to the 'Big-un' that is inboard of the 'Little-un' this should maintain the line.

I will of course be stood on top of 'B.A' with my inter-ship communication system in hand (Loud hailer) to verbally assist if required.

Now tell me that is not simple?  -  No?  -  Read it again then.  


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Thanks M&F I was currently doing the copy and paste thing mysen as it happens.

The first post on this thread also has relavant information you might want to refresh yourselves with.

The main point to remember with forming up is to take it slow, smile and enjoy it, if it all goes pear shaped, then it all goes pear shaped. The main thing is that everyone remains safe.

A few changes for me, Our 'Tender To' will not now be in attendance as it is not ready. Therefore I will not have our large Weber BBQ onboard but will still bring one that others are welcome to use. The Tug-of-war rope and other large gear etc will have to be left for me to go fetch on Saturday (Probably leave at LBBy)

Macie dog will not be their due to her new litter arrived yesterday.

Dolly and his MrsD cannot make it either so that puts us at eight crew onboard

I'll be off the forum from tomorrow morning through to Sunday night as I'm away on our once a year ride-out L.O.T (Lads on Tour), twenty one bikes to N.Wales for the weekend (Tiger is raring to go) so any questions and/or pm's will not get picked up until then.


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Right here's the time i put my neck on the Line, we now
have a departure time from Oulton which is 8.30, i am
now going to give the departure time for the

ANT FLOTILLA

DEP Richardsons Stalham 12.00-13.00pm latest
Broadland Sun,Princess, Major Gem, Siesta, Dungraftin
(Wet Shed)
Picking up at
Broadsedge, - Malanka , Corsica
Paddys Lane - PL9
Barton Turf
Barton Broad
How Hill
Ludham Bridge
St Benets - Blue  Moon

Arriving St Benets around 15.00 which if my timing is
correct leave us around 5/10 mins to wait for the main
flotilla.

If any of the hire boats are not ready they will follow
and pick up at somewhere along the route with any other
stragglers, and follow to Salhouse

If Broadland Sun is not ready Malanka will take over as
Lead Boat.

Please monitor PMR channel 4 and my mobile number is
07788 917959

Hoping for a great day, and eventful for all the right
reasons.

God bless see you all soon.

Graham
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With those time things are going to get very tight.

We are constrained by the Albion and her departure time from Salhouse as she has a schedule to keep to.

The sooner the Waveney/Yare lot arrive at St Benets the better.

Therefore - Command decision - we will now NOT transit into/round/out of Malthouse Broad, as the flotilla meets at St Benets we will go straight to Salhouse Broad.

Graham - If you can get your lot to St Benets earlier than 1500, then so much the better in the hope that JM and his lot arrives earlier than 1500

It will take us a fair while to get us rafted up either side of the Albion for the Photo Shoot before going alongside the quays etc.

I'll amend the first post to suit.


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Just wanted to say good luck and hope it all goes well..Broad Star would love to be there but unfortunately we cannot be in Stalham that day. See you all at the NBF meet though!
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The times i gave for departure are the latest if we can get all the hire craft ready by 12-1230ish then all the better and the arrival time would be earlier, can i add if everyone can be on standy by for an earlier depature of us from Stalham we will make the announcements by radio.  

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I am sure we can get down the Ant to St Bennets in less than two hours. Stalham to Salhouse is well over three hours for us normally(we go super slow).

I would ask Griff that if you have any influence at Richos to have the boats prepared for 12 rather than 13:00 then we stand a much better chance of stress free day.

Graham has been fantatsic in getting an earlier release time, perhaps a gentle push for earlier by you may help I don't know, I don't know the folks there at all.  I know it all depends on when the boats are returned and that special thing called Norfolk time..  

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