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May-20-2010 @ 10:39 AM                           Permalink
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Twice last year I had hire boats damage our boat, both yards reacted well and repaired our bout to a high standard, however I think the root cause is the decision not to hold a collision deposit, it is now just rolled into the hire fee. The hirer sees no pain for his lack of care.

George Sims

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May-20-2010 @ 10:53 AM                           Permalink
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quote:"......
the demise of the 'deposit' and its replacement with the damage waiver charge leads to an attitude of carelessness
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Amen to that.

I notice some yards do attach an additional security deposit to all male / all female parties but I wonder how often those deposits in part or in whole are retained - I get the impression you have to sink the ship before action is taken.


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Paul - "Unsuspecting Tyro" Since 1985.

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May-20-2010 @ 11:07 AM                           Permalink
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Got bumped last year at Yarmouth, guy came in to moor up in a hire boat, was doing well, came in against the tide, slid the boat into the spot in front of us... all going well, then decided it would be a good idea to tie the stern line on first, opps, current got behind the bow and out she swung on the stern line and mooring cleat dug a rather nasty scrape in the gel coat on out boat. Fortunately the rangers saw the who thing, took all the details and even called the Yard (HW) who were great to be honest. Repaired the damage, and washed the hull down too.  

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May-20-2010 @ 12:02 PM                           Permalink
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"there is no longer any sense of responsibility. An apology is seen as a sign of weakness, and of giving the other party an advantage."

Well chosen words MM, and without wanting to sound morbid, one of the advantages of not being immortal, a shame for the kids though... Smile  

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May-20-2010 @ 7:17 PM                           Permalink
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Thanks for the nice welcome to the forum. I am looking forward to chatting to like minded people on here. I have a fantastic mooring at Stalham,  We found and fell in love with the moorings here before we even found our boat. When we bought the boat it was moored at horning, but it had no facilties there and having ventured to Norfolk all through the winter there we got a bit fed up with no lighting, elec hookup and just a mud track of about quarter of a mile to the boat, it all got a bit wearing. More than happy where we are at Stalham. So therefore rather not give up the mooring, but try and find a way of avoiding these collisions. Thought about millions of fenders on the front, Maybe its worth a try. Terry

Terry Croarkin

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May-20-2010 @ 7:30 PM                           Permalink
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Hi Poppy.I am sure you are right about the instruction procedures. Its not like learning to drive a car, unfortunately. My other half spoke to a hire company about one of the collisions. She said, " if i had a collision with your car laughed and drove away, I am sure the police would come running after me, but with a hire boat the hirers dont really seem to care. Hirers dont seem to worry, cos its "only an old  boat". Its still someones'  treasured possession isnt it. terry

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Hi Maurice. It wasnt my intention to start a new debate on society's attitude, but it seems that most people put this sort of collision down to attitude. Perhaps we should start something then maybe the hire yards may bring back the deposit system and if enough people complained to the yards then just maybe !!!

Terry Croarkin

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May-20-2010 @ 7:45 PM                           Permalink
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I think you are right Yogibear. All I wanted was a considerate apology.... Unfortunately I tend to agree that the society of today is changing. Terry"



Terry Croarkin

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May-21-2010 @ 10:23 AM                           Permalink
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Hi all, we have had our boat bumped twice now by a hire boat from Richardsons. The lady there is very helpful & they have not quibled about the repair bills at all.The only problem is, that is fine if you are on your boat, but what about damage caused when not there!  Frown

Mick & all

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May-21-2010 @ 12:34 PM                           Permalink
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" Thought about millions of fenders on the front, Maybe its worth a try "

Or just one bowsprit Smile

Actually, fitting bowsprits to motor cruisers (especially hire ones) is a bad idea. Imagine the carnage they could create on a busy day.......

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i think most hirers are ok but the few that do cause problems is not only restricted to hirers, i have seen many a private boat get into a mess and they are worse because they do not want to show inexperiance and like to think they are experts, hence why they are charging around with no care or thought for the rivers and other users of the broads,  

Gary
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