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I think you are right Yogibear. All I wanted was a considerate apology.... Unfortunately I tend to agree that the society of today is changing. Terry"



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Hi all, we have had our boat bumped twice now by a hire boat from Richardsons. The lady there is very helpful & they have not quibled about the repair bills at all.The only problem is, that is fine if you are on your boat, but what about damage caused when not there!  Frown

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" Thought about millions of fenders on the front, Maybe its worth a try "

Or just one bowsprit Smile

Actually, fitting bowsprits to motor cruisers (especially hire ones) is a bad idea. Imagine the carnage they could create on a busy day.......

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i think most hirers are ok but the few that do cause problems is not only restricted to hirers, i have seen many a private boat get into a mess and they are worse because they do not want to show inexperiance and like to think they are experts, hence why they are charging around with no care or thought for the rivers and other users of the broads,  

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quote:"......
  Actually, fitting bowsprits to motor cruisers (especially hire ones) is a bad idea. Imagine the carnage they could create on a busy day.......
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could be the start of a new broads attraction!
"hireboat jousting on barton broad"
especially on saturday afternoons in the silly season.   Scared


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Actually paying isn't the whole story; what about the time lost whilst the boat is being repaired?

I am one of the "fortunate" that own an old and fragile boat, I shudder to think of the damage that would be caused if a 2 ton bathtub even bumped her ... and after spending a year restoring and another probably to complete her, I now have some idea of what a proper repair entails.

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I feel for yuor pain, unfortunatley i am not in a position to own a boat so i am one of the many hirers, yes there is a bit of not considering others but i think most hirers are responsible and i would hope they would stop and assist if they had a bump, however i am most in favour of what the greeks and eygptians had on the front of their boats or a boat with a steel hull, hope you have no more problems

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Hello and welcome.

Have a look at my post last year headed "lunatics" You can find it somewhere on the forums using the search facility.

I was nearly crushed and sunk by some idiot hirer who just motored away as if nothing happened. Thank your lucky stars you have a good old solid "broads bus" made to take the knocks. My little tub is not and they still aim straight for it.

Make sure you have anything breakable securely stowed even when moored.

Best of luck. Enjoy our broads as on the whole we are a fairly responsible bunch. Some of the hirers are regulars every year and are very experienced.

Regards.

Alan.

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Firstly I agree that the don’t care attitude is the worst thing and seems to be prevalent these days. A while back while moored at St B’s we unfortunate enough to have been tail-ended on our bow with sufficient force to knock my wife of the seat that she was on, at the same time at emptying the contents of some of the cupboards on the floor. The offending boat was then knocked off course and ploughed into the stern of the boat in front. As there was nobody visible I suspect that the offending skipper thought that he was safe to set of again without stopping. By the time I was on deck the offending boat was moving off at some speed, I shouted at it and the two people looking back immediately turned round and ignored me. On checking out our boat I was amazed to see that there was no apparent damage, strongly built these Seamaster 30’s. I’m sure that these would have been significant damage to our more fragile previous boat.

On the insurance issue the non-returnable insurance money was defiantly a bad thing. We have just returned from a family wedding / holiday in the Caribbean and the norm out there is to go everywhere by taxi. The drawback to this is that they are not cheap and the driving is downright scary !. We therefore decided to hire a car and the insurance is done the same way i.e. non refundable ‘deposit’ BUT there also have an insurance excess that you are liable for . The amount of the excess can be varied by paying more up front on the rental price but is never less than the equivalent of £250. In order to make it work you are obliged to leave you credit card details with the leasing company which they keep on record for three months.

I think that a system like that would be good on the Broads as it would restore the accountability of the hirer again without reducing the extra income from the insurance money for the yards.


Best Regards

Bob

Blimey that was close !

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It's a fact.  Accidents happen.  In forty-odd years of cruising the Broads in some pretty hefty lumps - hirecraft and my on - I have bever knowlingly damaged another's property.  With all that experience, I'm the first to admit that I've been lucky.  When things go wrong they go wrong very quickly and I've had my share of near misses.  I like to think, however, that had I had any sort of collision, my first reaction would be to consider the thoughts and feelings of the crew/hirer/owner of the boat with which I had collided.  Good manners and politeness in such situations cost nothing bar a loss of one's pride.

Some of you will know that my own restoration project - moored up at the time - was severely damaged by a yacht.  The yacht was crewed by four. late middle-aged, well educated gentlemen.  Despite their clipped accents, not one thought to say sorry.  "Don't worry, old chap, it's only the rubbing strake.  They're designed for that sort of thing," does not constitute an apology.  Did the yacht or a single member of the crew return to inspect the damage? I'll give you one guess.  The skipper sent me an email.  Did the email feature a single use of the "sorry" word?  I'll give you one guess.  "Novice helmsman." was the excuse.  Why is, "sorry" such a hard word to say?

"There are old pilots.  There are bold pilots............."

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Expilot, Sorry is not the only word that many find hard to say. Thank you is as well.

Today I visited The Reedham Ferry. I approached from upriver and moored on the stretch directly outside the pub which has enough space for about three boats. There was a Barnes hire boat closest to the ferry and we came in just past it. We pulled the boat back close to the hire boat leaving one space on the end. After a little while the hire boat left leaving my boat on its own right in the middle of that stetch of mooring. After a while a sailboat appeared and made an attempt to moor behind me. It got very close to my boat, very close to the ferry and then decided to abort. It was trying to come in under sail and with the wind blowing them away from the mooring. They had an outboard on the back, but didn't seem to want to use it. After a second unsuccesful attempt it headed across the river ready for a third attempt. My friend and I decided at this point, it might be safest to move my boat and help them out. We left our drinks on the table we were sitting at outside the pub and untied the ropes and pulled my boat right up close to the ferry to make it easier for them. They came in and tied up right in the middle of the remaining part of the mooring, thereby blocking any other boat from being able to moor there and effectively taking up two mooring spots. Not a word was uttered. They left the boat and walked past us and again not a word was said. I was by this stage fuming. After about an hour all four in the party, a couple about retirement age, one middle aged man and one young man, came back out and proceeded to prepare lunch and sit there eating it, right outside the pub, on the pubs mooring. No wonder some pubs charge for moorings. Again not a word had been said to us.

Still fuming, as we departed I went over to them, in full view of a few tables of drinkers and said, "excuse me, do you realise it has been nearly two hours since I moved my boat for you, and not one of the four of you has yet said thank you" As I walked off, I heard two embarrassed sorries, and one mumbled thank you. I wasn't going to let this incident put me off helping out other people in the future, but was detemined that their ignorance and arrogance didn't go un-noticed. Maybe they will think twice in the future.

Keith

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