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oddjob |
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I am new to this forum so forgive me if I dont understand things. We recently bought our own broads cruiser (Carribean 39) and love it. We love the broads and the people. Recently since the season started we have found that where we are moored, many boats use the area as a turning point. Twice in 1 day a hire boat whilst turning, collided with our boats bow. One of the hirers just turned around looked at us and laughed. We reported him to the hire boat company (Le Boat). Who I have to say reacted admirably, three cheers to Le Boat !! It seems to us that hire boat hirers dont give a monkey's about possible damage that can be caused aas they dont own the boats. These people are in the minority, because we have met and befriended hirers and they bare very sensible. Would like to hear of similar incidents and what others have done to avoid this happening. Thaks for listening to my winge... Terry
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I think what infuriates me the most is the 'look the other way and pretend it didnt happen' attitude.
I dont want your insurance details and I aint out to spoil your holiday but just a "sorry mate, I got that one wrong. I dont think there's any damage" would go a long long way.
Maybe its just this litigious society we now live in
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First off, welcome to the NBF.
Thankfully your experience is not that common but it does happen and has happened to a few of the members on here, me included. If it is happening to you on a regular basis then the obvious solution is to move from your present location to another berth, a pain I know but what's the alternative?
Where are you moored btw?
Griff
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This is a discussion that has been had many times, on here and on the rhond.
The problem, IMHO is twofold. Firstly the (larger) hire yards do NOT instruct their customers correctly in the rudiments of boat handling.
Secondly, the demise of the 'deposit' and its replacement with the damage waiver charge leads to an attitude of carelessness when a collision is caused or about to happen. I have been told by hirers not to worry because 'they don't say nuffink when ya take it back!'
I am sure that nobody here is unaware of this fact, but most boats on the broads are privately owned!
There is nothing more frightening
than ignorance in action.—Goethe
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Without wishing to start a whole new debate on society, I think the problem is, sadly, more of a reflection of the way people generally behave these days.
The "Why should/shouldn't I" attitude is now so deep rooted in so many peoples minds, that there is no longer any sense of responsibility. An apology is seen as a sign of weakness, and of giving the other party an advantage.
It needs better training in how to be polite, rather than better training in how to handle the boat.
Sadly the upshot of all this is that you need either to putmore fenders on or look for a more "out of the way" spot.
Honesty and Integrity ... When you can fake those, you've cracked it.
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Twice last year I had hire boats damage our boat, both yards reacted well and repaired our bout to a high standard, however I think the root cause is the decision not to hold a collision deposit, it is now just rolled into the hire fee. The hirer sees no pain for his lack of care.
George Sims
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quote:"......
the demise of the 'deposit' and its replacement with the damage waiver charge leads to an attitude of carelessness
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Amen to that.
I notice some yards do attach an additional security deposit to all male / all female parties but I wonder how often those deposits in part or in whole are retained - I get the impression you have to sink the ship before action is taken.
Regards
Paul - "Unsuspecting Tyro" Since 1985.
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Got bumped last year at Yarmouth, guy came in to moor up in a hire boat, was doing well, came in against the tide, slid the boat into the spot in front of us... all going well, then decided it would be a good idea to tie the stern line on first, opps, current got behind the bow and out she swung on the stern line and mooring cleat dug a rather nasty scrape in the gel coat on out boat. Fortunately the rangers saw the who thing, took all the details and even called the Yard (HW) who were great to be honest. Repaired the damage, and washed the hull down too.
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"there is no longer any sense of responsibility. An apology is seen as a sign of weakness, and of giving the other party an advantage."
Well chosen words MM, and without wanting to sound morbid, one of the advantages of not being immortal, a shame for the kids though... 
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Thanks for the nice welcome to the forum. I am looking forward to chatting to like minded people on here. I have a fantastic mooring at Stalham, We found and fell in love with the moorings here before we even found our boat. When we bought the boat it was moored at horning, but it had no facilties there and having ventured to Norfolk all through the winter there we got a bit fed up with no lighting, elec hookup and just a mud track of about quarter of a mile to the boat, it all got a bit wearing. More than happy where we are at Stalham. So therefore rather not give up the mooring, but try and find a way of avoiding these collisions. Thought about millions of fenders on the front, Maybe its worth a try. Terry
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