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May-27-2005 @ 12:28 PM                           Permalink
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Seems the sensible thing to do is cross Breydon at slack water, assumin everyone follows the "sensible" advice then can only imagine that the place must resemble rush hour in London city centre! Having viewed a number of photos of Breydon, a few appear to show boats crossing a huge expanse of water with no mudbanks in sight, so it would appear that these were taken at high tide(?)or thereabouts. Would I be correct to assume that, weather/boat height permitting, you may cross at anytime, albeit alot heavier going?

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It's not so much the passage across Breydon (given fair weather), it's more about getting through Yarmouth! The ebb fairly hosses out of the Bure, and you need to consider air daught for bridge clearance.
Most advise about 1hr after low water.

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May-27-2005 @ 2:12 PM                           Permalink
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Have a look at this Thread  PLANNING AHEAD   there is some good advice on that.
AS for mud banks, as the depth isnt that deep you will only see mad up to the waters edge and not the drop away.
  

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Hi Davef

I raised the question a short time ago, "could you go across on high water slack??" You may like to have a look at the replies.

But to summerise 1) bridge clearance problems. 2) fighting the tide as it starts to turn when you are trying to go upstream.

When you cross at low water slack  1 hour you have maximum bridge clearance and when the tide starts to flow back in you cruise up river with the tide assisting you.

Always makes me wonder why the insurance companies say the broads are non tidal, I don't think they have seen the Bure emptying out under the bridges at Gt Yarmouth. made me a little worried when inspite of being on time with the crossing the tides watch was obviously late!

I'll let you know how it goes, we are off across Breyden Water tomorrow at 08:53 according to the tables.
Scared

Kind regards, John & Jo.

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May-27-2005 @ 5:31 PM                           Permalink
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Thanks all...and best of luck Jo  Wink , watched video of crossing, nice idea ncsl,... now to try to decipher this tidal chart!  Playful

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May-31-2005 @ 12:19 AM                           Permalink
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Here is a shot taken on Monday coming back to the Northern Broads from The Breney Arms, didn't take on going as it was very rough and I just couldn't steer and take pictures! Scared

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You could take the easy option and use the tables on Paul's web site at Much easier than the others avaliable. http://www.shorebase.co.uk/broads/tides/broadstides.asp Print them out and take them with you. I swear by them. They give you the safe crossing times from Gt Yarmouth.


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Thanks John.....did recieve a tides table with booking confirmation from Hoseasons, quick check with shorebase site and times do appear to match up....thing is im running out of fingers and toes to make calculations as to departure times!

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Pauls Tide calculator is fantastic - how if he just make it work on a wap mobile phone Smile

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If you take the option to print out the tide table you will get the best times to cross ready calculated for you by Paul's magic!
What I do is print out the table with a start time of say 07:00 and then carry on selecting the folowing day at 07:00 staple the lot together and you have a ready made portable set of tide tables specifically for the days you need and with all the easy to understand location/time done for you. Works a treat for me every weekend, I printout Friday, Saturday and Sunday and if we'er lucky with a Bank Holiday the Monday also. 3 or 4 sheets and we are away. Add for Paul's tide tables over  Playful Wink  MLast Monday when we came back across from the Berney Arms to Gt Yarmouth Yacht Station (South to North Broads,)we were caught out slightly as we left the Berney Arms at the corect time for leaving Gt Yarmouth and by the time we were 3/4 the way across Breydon Water the tide had turned and it was the a bit of a slog against the tide, till we got to the entrance to the Bure, then of course we were going upstream with the tide which was great, next time we will go for this stituation again, I'd far rather go against the tide over Breydon for a short time than meet the torent still emptying out of the Bure at Gt Yarmouth.
John

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