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andrewleighcook
Feb-28-2008 @ 9:31 PM                           Permalink
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Hi all here is an interesting subject for you all on the Forum as Diesel Fuel has shot up in price will Bio Fuel be cheaper to run and will it harm the Engines as by changing over to this Bio Fuel? Griff will Broads Ambition be able to be running on that Bio Fuel? What's your comments on this please.
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Only one fuel is required.

Wind

boat-sail

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Feb-28-2008 @ 9:39 PM                           Permalink
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And of course,is biofuel more environmentally damaging?

A lot of rainforest is being cut down, so they say, just to grow the crops necessary for biofuel - part of the reason for sky high grain costs can be put down to more farmers in the US growing grain for fuel rather than to eat and that must be wrong!!!

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And during the recent cold snap local buses running on bio fuel were unable to start, the fuel had frozen!

Jenny Morgan,
May I apologise in advance for any offense that I might cause.

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Feb-28-2008 @ 10:45 PM                           Permalink
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'B.A' has a modern Beta Marine 4cyl naturally aspirated diesel engine 50Hp.

Will it run on Bio Diesel?  Yes.
Will it invalidate our guarentee - Don't know
I'd have to ask Jason Hatch of SOS24:7 on that one.
I'm just about resigned to the sad fact that I will be paying around £1:20 per Ltr for red diesel at todays prices come November 1st.
I can of course start buying white diesel from the garage forecourts at around £1:06 and transporting/filling myself I suppose, that would save me 14p per Litre.
This government will soon be taxing us for breathing  -  Griff

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Feb-28-2008 @ 11:41 PM                           Permalink
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Griff  I own a 1989 190d merc and she runs happily on bio fuel as i make my own i originaly got the information of the net by putting bio diesel in my browser and went on from there. To give a few pointers on the fuel it is classed as a fuel and as such excise duty is payable but only on what you use, bio fuel in use omits only 8% polution into the atmosphere compared to diesels 80%also when in use i personaly fill with diesel every 3 filling as it greatly assists in starting on cold days also if you start using it you have to change all your fuell and oil fillters after the first filling as it fully cleans all your fuel lines & tanks also injectors and any thing else in the system my friends 6 year old rover diesel runs on it also the main diesels to keep away from it is turboes as they could result in damage to them to build the unit to make bio fuel you only need a little engineering skil also welding and electrics a couple of 45 gallon oil drums a couble of black header tanks a few bits of steel and a tap or too but this should not be a problem to you after what you have done over the last 5 years.on another point perfectly fresh vegetable oil mixed with diesel at a ratio of 40/60 will run diesels quite happily but the same cleaning at first still applies by the way the bio proses uses old cooking oil from fish and chip shops and returants and when in use its cost is around 36p per liter clive.

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Hi Gary one question for you what happens if there is No wind for a few days will you Quant around the Broads or use the Outboard Motor / Inboard ? as then it has got to run on Fuel.
Andrew.

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Andrew,

I have always said, anyone can sail when there is wind. Sailing when there is little or no wind brings out the real sailies. Thats why I dont go far when there is little/no wind boat-sail

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quote:"......
Hi Gary one question for you what happens if there is No wind for a few days
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no problem there andrew, gary is full of wind! Evil Grin

regards mike
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Some facts (based on American info where they have been running BIO far longer than we have..
1. Bio diesel lubrication qualities are infeiror to conventional diesel.
(this will reduce the life of the pump and injectors)

2. Bio Diesel does not contain the naturally occuring 'swelling agent' that conventional diesel has. (this caused 10% of diesel pumps to fail in the U.S) Once the seals are replaced, they are fine to run on Bio, but its a costly repair.

How do I know all this, because I purchased a VW TDI the previous owner insisted running on bio, the pump seals failed....on rebuild, the pump was found to be worn out......it only had 93,000 on the clock. (most pumps are good for at least 150,000 miles or more!

I wont be putting BIO anywhere near my boats Perkins 4.107....its run fine for 40 years on conventional diesel.....
GaV


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