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May-07-2005 @ 4:25 PM                           Permalink
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Roy, geese shouldn't be disturbed...but most of 'em are!  Smile

Personally, I think the 'bats need friends too' type environmentalist generally have their collective heads up where the sun doesn't shine just lately...and I don't mean Skegness! There is enough of Broadland IMO for us all to enjoy if we're mindful of the impact we're having...blanket bans and draconian measures only serve to fuel unrest and bad feeling. Ok, it's an AONB and a National Park but if anyone can successfully run one without shedloads of tourist cash funding their efforts I'd like them to try to do so and then please enlighten me as to how they did it!   Smile

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have to agree but keep it friendly folk,
we have to beat them not insult them,
input from all broads lovers is needed please. Cheers

roya

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May-07-2005 @ 5:58 PM                           Permalink
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Yes, this is a vital issue, although I don't think it will affect the quay heading at St Bennets, which in fact has just been tidied up by Nuttals. (see Nigel's photos on this forum on the subject).

The '100 informal overnight moorings' appears to be over the whole area mentioned. (Thurne, Bure and Ant).

The NSBA have more details on their website as one of their 'Campaigns' where they are asking for public feedback to collate. You can view the story at http://www.thegreenbook.org.uk/campaigns/campaigns.asp and, if you wish, reply on one of their forums, dedicated to the task.

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Hold on, I may be wrong in what I just said...
(I know, because I've been wrong before !!)   Blush

I've just had a walk down to St Benets and taken some more photos. On closer inspection, the main run of quay heading doesn't appear to have been touched at all, as it was already in good condition. The bank work has been carried out to the East, across the front of the Abbey Gatehouse, where there was a large lagoon, now filled in. (as per Nigel's photos, already posted here.)

What has me worried now, in connection with the Norfolk Afloat article, is the new dyke that they've excavated about 50 yds inland, along the whole length of the moorings.

As the attached panorama shows, along the right-hand side is a new double-fenced footpath with stiles, not yet signposted.  If the plan is to do the same here as at Ludham Bridge, they may create a second high bank and turn the quay heading to 'reinforced' reed bank.

This is only guesswork, I've scoured the Internet, but can find no specific details of the proposed work (eg profiles of the bank set-back).

If anyone can enlighten me on this, I'd be most grateful....  Smile


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May-08-2005 @ 12:03 AM                           Permalink
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It seems to me that there is a lot of misinformation about. I have not read the article. I don't find Norfolk Afloat very interesting.

If you go down to St Benet's you will see that the moorings are all still in place. The current work appears to be creating a new soke dyke set back from the existing. I am sure that some moorings currently quay headed will not be repaired when the quay heading wears out and so there will be a loss of moorings to some extent. However....

I look out of my window onto the moorings at St Benet's. I look out there every day. What I can tell you is that most of the time there are no boats there at all. There are none there at the moment. Sometimes there are a few boats but there are absolutely loads of mooring places. It gets crowded on just a handful of days per year and even then there is plenty of room.

As for not disturbing the wildlife on Horsey, I have no problem with avoiding doing this in the winter. To insist on doing so is irresponsible, selfish and spoiling the Broads for the rest of us.

I enjoy boating on the Broads, but there is a lot more to the Broads than boating. It's not a canal it's a wetland and needs treating with respect. This is a very fragile place.

I don't regard myself a a tree hugger. I don't know what this really means but I am sure that it is a derogatory remark of some kind. There is another website for that kind of stuff.

This site is the home of the balanced view of the Broads. There are two sides to all these discussions.

Nigel
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May-09-2005 @ 9:51 AM                           Permalink
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There's no need to get uppity, Nigel...I expected better from you...the term "tree-hugger" is a mildly sarcastic term for those misguided extremists who would denounce all things technological and have us all back in the dark ages in a feudal system digging for dirt like peasants...absolutely not people like you and I who want to maintain a good, healthy balance between the natural world and our pursuit of leisure. Therefore, no insult intended to you so your last paragraphs' snide inferences were unnecessary and I would suggest not in themselves in the spirit of this forum.

I, and many others, fully support the preservation of wetlands and wildlife sanctuaries like Horsey Mere and the whole Broadland area in general but this needs to be done in a way which is workable, sensible and acceptable to all users. As a river user I do my best to minimise the impact my chosen activity has and I would expect all others to do the same...anarchy on either side of the preservation fence is counter-productive. It could end up getting as bad as the animal rights activists' actions...remember when they released all those minks in Norfolk?

I seems that there is a distinct possibility that the local NIMBY (Not In My Back Yard) fraternity would have ALL, or virtually all tourism, stopped on the system just to preserve their local AONB for themselves...very selfish and short-sighted really...no tourism industry, no revenue...end of story!

The real ironic thing is...the ones who complain most about the "destruction" of the Broads environment are usually those who are not even native to the area but refugees from other, less-beautiful parts of the country...

Don't want to fall out with you or anybody else about this (or anything else for that matter) but I will NOT stand by and be insulted by being accused, either directly or indirectly, of not caring about the Broads!
I've been a visitor and a devotee to the area for 25 years and gave NEVER knowingly endangered anything or anybody!  Mad  Mad

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May-09-2005 @ 10:27 AM                           Permalink
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Oh dear, I think someone needs to go and plant a few bulbs and unwind a tad. I've followed this and other related threads carefully and see no sign of "snide inferences" or "accusations".
I thought Nigel's reply was considered and balanced, unlike other contributions which could be seen as inflamatory!

Trevor

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May-09-2005 @ 11:07 AM                           Permalink
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Well pardon me for having the audacity to voice an opinion...ye gods...

Quote: "This site is the home of the balanced view of the Broads. There are two sides to all these discussions"  


...apparently not...

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May-09-2005 @ 11:39 AM                           Permalink
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How do you know if Nigel is offended...are you psychic?

It was a discussion which Nigel and I entered into and voiced our respective opinions. NB OPINIONS...Not handbags at 30 paces...that seems outwardly to be your style.

If Nigel is offended, he will, no doubt, let me know and I will apologise to him unreservedly because I respect him and his beliefs. It is not up to you to decide what others are or aren't thinking. As for threatening to take your ball away and leave the site...dear or dear...only one reply to that sort of churlishness...

Don't let the door hit you in the backside on the way out... Playful

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This message was edited by Dibbler on Feb-25-06 @ 2:41 PM

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COOOWEEEEEE,

Could one just suggest that maybe things are being said here which are not really meant It would be nice if a bit little bit of editing went on before Richard wakes up. We all know where to go for a knock about. Playful

Each I suggest sorts out his own

Bill...

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