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SteveO
Sep-02-2007 @ 11:08 PM                           Permalink
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Did anyone else see the sunken boat at Horning Ferry Marina this afternoon (Sunday 2nd)?  I don't know how this came about but seeing it brings a chill to the heart of any boat owner.
Steve

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Sep-02-2007 @ 12:54 AM                           Permalink
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I have heard voices saying AJB may have seen this, so perhaps he will enlighten us as to the cause.

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Sep-03-2007 @ 9:19 AM                           Permalink
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We saw the results of this tragic event yesterday afternoon...brought a chill and a sick feeling.

Hope the owners are ok...

John


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Sep-03-2007 @ 10:16 AM                           Permalink
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Indeed it is a sad sight John,

Got to admit my heart was in my mouth as the picture opened. I know the owner and the boat is moored nearly opposite me....nice people and such a shame

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Sep-03-2007 @ 6:23 PM                           Permalink
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I have to see Ian/Lisa this week on another matter and will ask - cannot think what it could have been other than a skin fitting. From the flags on board it looked as they took part in the Horning Water Carnival so it must have been after that, either overnight or in the early morning.
Were they on board when it happened?
And now you know what insurance is for and the risk you take by not having it!


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Sep-03-2007 @ 6:51 PM                           Permalink
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Just re moored at Ferry yesterday (West basin) early pm and saw AJB purposefully making his way up the Ferry Dyke I had no idea at the time what this may have been for.

I don't know the cause but a timely reminder to turn off sea cocks and toilet inlets when your craft is not in use.

Thoughts with the owners

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Sep-03-2007 @ 7:34 PM                           Permalink
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she went down at approximately 18.30 Saturday night, after she had taken part in the carnival.
Mr Cressy of loddon attempted a lift late Sunday afternoon, but was unsuccessful, Im not sure when another attempt will be made, soon I should imagine.
There was a small amount of pollution, but not enough to warrant EA involvement.

She went down in less than 10 minutes, according to the owner who was on board at the time, we wont know why she went down until she is lifted out.

Andy

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Sep-05-2007 @ 9:32 PM                           Permalink
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"And now you know what insurance is for and the risk you take by not having it!"

Whilst I agree that insurance is a necessary evil, if this was a skin fitting failure, the depressing reality is that an insurance company would most likely put this down to a failure by the owner to carry out proper maintenance and refuse to pay out.
A work colleague of mine experienced such a sinking a couple of years ago and this was the outcome. The fact that the fitting was not readily accessible for inspection was not accepted as mitigation.
Steve

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Sep-06-2007 @ 5:37 PM                           Permalink
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OK Steve I accept that that may be the case but what maintenance can you do on skin fittings or more to the point what do other members do?

I am familiar with the Blakes type which you can strip down but are they, the insurers suggesting that you periodically strip down gate valves?

In fact even if the valve malfunctions there is not usually a leak but that occurs if the jubilees come undone. Other than a visual check what can you do? I think I would be quite upset if the insurance co. did not pay out for such a thing unless there was evidence of serious neglect.

What checks do other members do? Bill- what should I do ?  

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The best maintenance you can give a ball valve seacock (gate valves have no place in the marine environment) is to use it regularly, but we all do that anyway surely, we all turn them off when leaving the boat for any time and turn them on for our next trip. If you don’t turn them off then your insurer will laugh at you if there is any failure which leads to a claim.
Inspect for any leakage and see that they are secure each time you operate them, strip and grease them at each annual lift. Cheap brass valves should be avoided as they corrode in a marine environment and even the best quality ones will loose some of their constituent metals and weaken through electrolysis over time. Make sure they are bonded electricaly to the rest of the bonding system.
Remember a seacock is a hole below the waterline in your boat with an on off switch, treat it as such and keep an eye on it and always keep wooden or rubber bungs close by to plug any failed seacock, most boats have at least two so find out where they are.
If you think it’s a problem on a shallow mooring just imagine a failure on the deeper rivers or Breydon, or worse still, at sea.

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