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You could have taken the words out of my mouth Roya!!

Cheers

Steve

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Hi Roy,well done mate Playful Wink  you spotted it!
as far as i can see, for a long lime now,the only qualification for a job running any vital service eg government,the nhs,law enforcement,the BA?, appears to be a total lack of either ability or common sense,and a complete lack of experience in the relevent area.
Sorry,i'm about to start foaming at the mouth and ranting about the 'state of the country today'etc,etc
  Blush  Tinhat Tinhat Tinhat

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Dave

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What do we call the Broads?
If only that was all the Bill was about!

Packman must be jumping up and down with glee at the publicity that this, largely irrelevant clause is geting, whilst other, far more important issues are ignored by the media(along with many here  Mad ).

The real point is that, if passed, this piece of parliamentary mischeif can (and I have no doubt will) be used to greatly curtail OUR LEGAL RIGHT to navigate on the tidal waterways of the Broads, whatever you wish to call them!

In addition the legal right  will be conferred on Rangers to board and take charge of a vessel in certain circumstances. How many of them have the ability to handle a 30' gaff rigged yacht in a blow? I very much doubt it! And when they get it wrong, where will the liability lie?

RANT TO BE CONTINUED!!!!

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Small point. When the name is changed - to whatever - how much is it going to cost for new logos, new stationery, new signboards, new job descriptions / titles, re-branding publicity campaigns etc.

There have to be better things to spend our money on.

Phil

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Of course its the Norfolk Broads.  Always has been.  The BA may well be using a national government ploy(used by governments of all colours since politics began)  to distract the public from the REAL issues.

"There are old pilots.  There are bold pilots............."

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Hi
I don't want to upset anyone, but part of me hopes that no change of name is made, then the only question will be how many of his friends the honorable member for Waveney can persuade to vote against this nasty and unwanted piece of legislation. As I have stated before is it really good for us to be working and playing in a 'National Park'.

Hugh

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Having read a large number of the posts on the name change subject I think I can see the pros and cons of both sides.

I must have missed the line item in the 2006 budget for the 20K, could someone point that out to me?, and as Torty says, who's going to pay for this.

In fact lets go one one more step, how are any of the changes going to get paid for?

I might have said this before (apologies for my poor memory) but the way I read the act the Rangers will now basically have Police powers. Not saying that this is a good or bad thing, but I would assume that there must be some training required.

Popppy - could you fill in my pathetic level of knowledge on the subject, and explain about the curtailing the right to navigate. I'm sure I'm just being dense so please keep it simple !



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Richard,
Our right to navigate in tidal waters is enshrined in Magna Carta. Therefore, our progress on such waterways may not be impeded!

There are sections in the proposed Bill which will give the Bishop's right hand man the power to close the navigation, contrary to "Our right to navigate "

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Hi Nautiuser.


quote:"......
the only question will be how many of his friends the honorable member for Waveney can persuade to vote against this nasty and unwanted piece of legislation.
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As has been pointed out elsewhere, this is a Private bill, sponsored (with our money!) by the Broads Authority.
For bills of this type to succeed, they must not be controversial, and a simple demonstration that this is not the case when it reaches Parliament is enough to see it fail.
However, our MPs of all persuasion have a history of saying one thing and doing another, hence the profound opposition from many sides that this Bill is generating. It is essential that as many of our Parliamentary representatives as possible know how each of us feel!

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This one doesn't make a lot of sense. It always irritates me anyway when people refer to the area as "The Norfolk Broads".

Admittedly "The Norfolk and Suffolk Broads" doesn't roll off the tounge, but why not just call it "The Broads" as it seems to be mostly called these days or "Broadland National Park". At least that way it wouldn't alienate the Suffolk element, who are very much part of the area.

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Hi all,:tinhat:

I cant see the problem meself. Call it the Norfolk Broads as it is the name that everyone knows it by.

Then, we can redraw the line between Norfolk and Suffolk so Waveney District (and all other areas that are on the broads) are within Norfolk.

The plan is so simple!!!:tinhat::tinhat::tinhat:

Gary Tinhat

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