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Jun-06-2006 @ 2:24 AM                           Permalink
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Having read a large number of the posts on the name change subject I think I can see the pros and cons of both sides.

I must have missed the line item in the 2006 budget for the 20K, could someone point that out to me?, and as Torty says, who's going to pay for this.

In fact lets go one one more step, how are any of the changes going to get paid for?

I might have said this before (apologies for my poor memory) but the way I read the act the Rangers will now basically have Police powers. Not saying that this is a good or bad thing, but I would assume that there must be some training required.

Popppy - could you fill in my pathetic level of knowledge on the subject, and explain about the curtailing the right to navigate. I'm sure I'm just being dense so please keep it simple !



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Jun-06-2006 @ 5:39 PM                           Permalink
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Richard,
Our right to navigate in tidal waters is enshrined in Magna Carta. Therefore, our progress on such waterways may not be impeded!

There are sections in the proposed Bill which will give the Bishop's right hand man the power to close the navigation, contrary to "Our right to navigate "

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Hi Nautiuser.


quote:"......
the only question will be how many of his friends the honorable member for Waveney can persuade to vote against this nasty and unwanted piece of legislation.
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As has been pointed out elsewhere, this is a Private bill, sponsored (with our money!) by the Broads Authority.
For bills of this type to succeed, they must not be controversial, and a simple demonstration that this is not the case when it reaches Parliament is enough to see it fail.
However, our MPs of all persuasion have a history of saying one thing and doing another, hence the profound opposition from many sides that this Bill is generating. It is essential that as many of our Parliamentary representatives as possible know how each of us feel!

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This one doesn't make a lot of sense. It always irritates me anyway when people refer to the area as "The Norfolk Broads".

Admittedly "The Norfolk and Suffolk Broads" doesn't roll off the tounge, but why not just call it "The Broads" as it seems to be mostly called these days or "Broadland National Park". At least that way it wouldn't alienate the Suffolk element, who are very much part of the area.

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Hi all,:tinhat:

I cant see the problem meself. Call it the Norfolk Broads as it is the name that everyone knows it by.

Then, we can redraw the line between Norfolk and Suffolk so Waveney District (and all other areas that are on the broads) are within Norfolk.

The plan is so simple!!!:tinhat::tinhat::tinhat:

Gary Tinhat

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Clearly Poppy & I think alike. It is a nasty Bill, and the name issue nothing more than a smokescreen.
On the lines of Poppy's comments I have written and lodged my complaints with both J.P. and Bob Blizzard. Bob Blizzard has replied, on the copy you will see his address, the more people who write to him the better!

You will need to hit the green enlarge logo to read it!

Jenny Morgan, the Oulton Bard!

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I replied to Bob with the following:

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Peter,

Do you have any indication as to whether Bob Blizzard is likely to take notice of letters from people outside his constituency? I will be writing to my local MP, though not until the final draft is published as he has no direct interest, but I'm also happy to take any other routhe that might help quash or change this bill.

Robin
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Jun-07-2006 @ 2:16 AM                           Permalink
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I'm not sure if this shows my ignorance, or the length of time I've lived abroad.

Can an Act be amended after it's signed into law, or does a new act have to replace it ?

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Robin, Bob is aware that his interest is in a holiday area and that it effects folk from outside his constituency.

Richard, a Bill can revoke or repeal previous enactments.

Jenny Morgan, the Oulton Bard!

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Just a couple of thoughts on this one. When I visit the Peak District I visit the Peak District, not the Peak District National Park, so why the Broads National park? The same can be said of the other National Parks.

Secondly, since the Bill is probably dead in the water, where does that leave the Boat Safety Scheme? One way and another numerous folk have invested quite serious money in this scheme, yet the scheme needs the Bill to go through. So where does this leave us boaters? I'm certainly not going to the expense of BSS certification until we have a Bill that looks likely to succeed. The hurdles to be overcome are growing higher by the day!  

Jenny Morgan, the Oulton Bard!

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