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Richard
May-29-2006 @ 8:50 AM                           Permalink
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I'm going to grandstand here, please feel free to shoot me down in flames.

This forum has never been, or probably never will be, a political forum, but I just read an article on EDP http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/news/story.aspx?brand=EDPOnline&category=News&tBrand=edponline&tCategory=news&itemid=NOED28%20May%202006%2020%3A14%3A41%3A500

Assuming the writer is correct, and I've no reason to believe he's not. Some idiot has just spent 20 thousand pounds just from basically reading this  forum.

Twenty thousand - for what !!!

That twenty thousand could keep this site running for the next five years, or my bar tab for at least the next week.

I made a comment a few months back about the risks of re-branding, at what point will people remove their fingers from their ears and thumbs from bottoms.

20,000 GBP is real money, it's not a bar tab, it's not fun Monopoly money, it's peoples salaries.

Sorry for the rant, but if the BA wants to dump £20,000 on branding a exercise, then they can start with spending twenty quid on this forum.

[fixed typo on link]

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You and Bill almost overlapped here Richard, but the link works in his thread 'Seen This'.

He's used: http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/news/story.aspx?brand=EDPOnline&category=News&tBrand=edponline&tCategory=news&itemid=NOED28%20May%202006%2020%3A14%3A41%3A500

I'm still trying to work out whether the 'Nofolk' in the EDP item title is a typo or a play on words...  Gasp

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May-29-2006 @ 9:13 AM                           Permalink
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Cheers Paul for the updated link, I was so livid I was typing too fast !

Why does this stuff always happen over bank holiday weekends ?

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Morning Paul I wondered that and indeed which particular young Suffolk lady was the 'Beccles Broad' they might have quoted a phone number Evil Grin  if they wanted to support local businesses  tounge-in-cheek

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No dear it's the bump on your head getting bigger" Bill...

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May-29-2006 @ 9:21 AM                           Permalink
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Who wants to support local businesses, as Blakes told me:-

"I am sorry to advise that we will be unable to donate any money at this time to your reunion as I'm yet to see anyone on the forum say anything positive about agencies or encourage people to use the agencies...its always book direct. I do read the posts regularly and think that perhaps it may be more lucrative at this time to ask the individual yards for sponsorship as I cannot persuade my directors to do so based on the correspondence to date. "

I guess the money only gets spent in certain directions.

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Hi All.
Not sure if this is going to come out right,
But it seems to me the Reluctance of the BA and others official bodies to come on this site,is because of the vast collective knowledge of our members.
and in most Local positions the folk in charge do not like their own knowledge tested.
There are some members on here that IMHO,could run The Broads,So much better and save shed loads of cash in the process.
Hope all this makes some sort of sense.

roya

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May-29-2006 @ 11:48 AM                           Permalink
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Hi,

I'm sure I'm not alone and even though I know they are in Norfolk and Suffolk regardless of where I have been on them I have always refered to the area as the Norfolk Broads, as did my father before me. As you say £20,000 for apparently plagiarizing a site thread seems a bit much.

Hugh

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May-29-2006 @ 11:49 AM                           Permalink
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Just my 5p worth....

This is a nice, relaxed and friendly forum - one I enjoy spending time reading and contributing to.  I suspect a large part of the reason for that is because it is a number of like, or similar, minded people discussing things related to something they love - rivers / boats / the Broads etc.

I know of a number of other forums where the atmosphere is rather different.  This is because people are discussing things about which they often disagree, sometimes having completely incompatible views on what and how things should be done.  This inevitably leads to rows, sometimes very heated ones.  If you are the representative of an organisation you can often wind up on the receiving end of huge amounts of abuse and it can take up a lot of your time trying to answer all the points made, not always nicely, by other contributers.

A classic example of this is ADSLGuide.org.uk where the ISP's frequently do interact with customers.  A policy change by the ISP can often divide customers into supporters and objectors.  The forums then descend into anarchy as the two camps fight it out and any comments by the ISP intended to explain why they've done what they've done usually just inflames the situation, forcing the ISP rep to return time and time again to explain, re-explain, clarify, justify and all the rest their decision.

The exact same danger, albeit to a slightly lesser extent, may be perceived by some to exist here - in other words, don't start what you can't finish.  Either, be prepared to commit the time and effort necessary to argue your case in the face of potentially strong opposition, or just stay out of it in the first place.  I would suspect that many outfits steer clear of here to avoid such a situation, real or imagined.  Cowardice, or realism?  You decide.

Any Plusnet customers who read AG will know what I mean....

Simon

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May-29-2006 @ 12:20 PM                           Permalink
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Thank you Simon, I really should not have stuck my oar in the water on this one.

I'm no position to suggest what the BA should or should not do, and it's wrong of me to bring up my personal views on a forum such as this, when I'm not in a position to make change. Even if I was this is probably not the best place to do it.

I certainly don't want to get into a situation of two or camps are fighting in public over a trivial item.

I'm now going to send myself to the woodshed with some birchtwigs Smile

Sorry, that last para was flippant - but apologies to all.

The region is going to be called what the people want to call it, not because some wally got paid twenty grand decided it should be called.

I'll now go and suck on a lime to keep my yank friends happy Smile

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May-29-2006 @ 12:39 PM                           Permalink
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I'm with Hugh on this one, and think Mr McGregor is on to a loser in trying to change perceptions... No amount of re-branding, or local grumbling will change the way people refer to things or places... However, I also feel the BA should leave well alone and not throw away any more money on pointless exercises.

Some will refer to the Broads, many to the Norfolk Broads, and a few, politely, to the Norfolk and Suffolk Broads. All this regardless of what the Authority decides.

Danny

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