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  I understand from a reliable source that a chap has recently declared on Facebook that he has opened a new "business" providing pilot services at Wroxham Bridge.  It sounds dubious to say the least  - apparently he isn't taking public liability insurance because he doesn't believe it's necessary as any arrangement will be a private matter between him and the other skipper. But as he is charging for  the service, he has a responsibility I'm sure !

So, what does anyone else know about this?  I'm sure this will make for a very interesting topic !

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Leaving aside the public liability issue I wouldn't think he would get many customers anyway. All the hireboaters should use the existing pilot so that leaves the odd private boat and if they know he has no public liability most of them would be put off

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That sounds odd to say the least. Will he be in competition with the established pilot service I wonder? I also wonder what the views of the hire yards would be if their hirers use the services of a pilot with no insurance.

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Yes,  that's one of the reasons I raised it here to be honest, to make people aware. As you mention, the hirers must use the official services, but...

It all sounds extremely dubious -  where for example is he running this business from ?  Is he perhaps planning on simply loitering near the bridge with a bridge pilot label stuck to his chest ?  He could cause some confusion if that is the case ...

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The main problem I can see is this. A new hirer, who may have not read the "Skippers Notes" correctly, or not at all turns up by the Hotel Wroxham wishing to go upstream. The unofficial pilot just happens to be there, and volunteers to take the boat through.
The boat's paint is "scratched" or worse, and the hirer is left with a nasty bill when he returns the boat.
With the cost of a new hire boat being many thousands of pounds, this chap must have this job terminated, quick.

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Yep, exactly. He sounds like a dodgy chancer to me!

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Maybe along with the new Horning Ferry it be should raised with the BA if they are not already aware, are either or both qualified for the service they are offering, licensed where necessary and have permission to operate from public moorings if applicable.

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Karen&Mike, is there any chance you could get back to your source and let us have a link to the actual declaration on FB, please? Or, if it's on a closed group, can you copy and paste it on here?

"..for the avoidance of any doubt, the broads are not legally a national park and do not come under the national park legislation, and nor will they."
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Mr P, I am not in any of the Facebook groups because having joined I quickly left! This I believe came from another group however ...

I will pm you shortly.

Karen

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pm received and reply sent.

"..for the avoidance of any doubt, the broads are not legally a national park and do not come under the national park legislation, and nor will they."
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