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Whilst the dates are not certain as yet, The Chet will be closed to Navigation for a period of up to 4 weeks shortly.

Norfolk County Council have contracted to have repair works carried out the footbridge between the river and Hardley Flood and make repairs to the bank which is in danger of washing out. This is outside the scope of the other flood defence work but locally believed to be important because the half tide 'sills' help control the rates of flow at Chet mouth.

The work can only be done from the river and a modular platform will be assembled which will completly obstruct passage. The timing seems likly to be from Mid November to just before Christmas.

If bringing a boat to any of the Chet yards for work or winter storage it is important to bear this in mind. As soon as I have more details I will post again. I am also hoping that BESL will tie in with this arrangement with any riverbased work they might be doing so it's all done at once but I'm not holding my breath.

This is particularly aimed at anyone who normally brings a boat round from Langley dyke or Hardley dyke where I understand one bank will not be useable over the winter because of the defence works.  

"Actually I'm very good at going sideways until I want to moor that is!!!"  Bill...

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I have this morning received official notification from Norfolk County Council concerning the closure of the River Chet.

The river will be blocked from 28 November 2005 until 23 December The river should therefore be open again for Christmas weekend.

"Actually I'm very good at going sideways until I want to moor that is!!!"  Bill...

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Thanks for that Bill will note the dates on the calender Smile

Regards Bern.
I told you the boat had no brakes !!!!!!!!!

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Woo Hoo!!! this means we'll probably see you in Oct Evil Grin ,
BTW thats a threat AND a promise!! Evil Grin

Cheers!
Dave

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Do you mind me asking, Bill, how that affects the river-based businesses on the Chet?

I'd have thought that there would be financial implications even at this time of year, and I bet you can't get insurance/compensation for this kind of thing.

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Local businesses reactions to the initial suggest that the river should be shut between Sept 26 & Oct 19 were well aired in the EDP article of Sept 1st.

Whilst there is never a good time the work needs to be done and finding a source for the funding has not been easy. It falls outside the scope of flood alleviation because the Flood has been flooded for years if you get my drift.

The aim has been to find a timing between when people has brought their boats in for storage or repair and when they might want to use them in the new year.

By removing the obstruction by the 23rd Santa's wherry towed by his red nosed swans should be able to get through (What do you mean you didn't know Scared  what did you think those black swans were all about)

Any overrun would also be very obviouse and maybe it would not just be swans with red noses Evil Grin

The earlier article is here

http://new.edp24.co.uk/search/story.aspx?brand=EDPOnline&category=News&itemid=NOED31%20Aug%202005%2019:44:49:307&tBrand=EDPOnline&tCategory=search

The revised dates are outside the hiring period for all of the Chet yards.

Talking of which this weekend sees the last hires from both ourselves and Alex at Castle Craft may we extend best wishes to all our friends.

"Actually I'm very good at going sideways until I want to moor that is!!!"  Bill...

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A sad weekend which sees the loss of two more hire fleets from the southern rivers. I can't help feeling that the infrastructure in this area is reaching an irreversible decline. Yards going, Pubs going etc. The nature of the southern rivers has changed a lot over the past ten years, perhaps back to what it once was prior to the 70's hire boom. In some ways it is good to have those quiet, open rivers to enjoy but they will not attract the numbers of visitors which they once did. I really see in years to come the Yare and Waveney valleys becoming more and more the preserve of what I call the "Brundall Gin Palace Brigade". No offence to those of you who house large cruisers at Brundall, it's simply a tag to identify a different type of craft with generally different requirements.

I know of three people who have moved their private boats from moorings at Beccles to northern rivers from this winter. Is this just coincidence? I don't know.


I am certainly grateful to those people who objected to the Chet's original closure dates in october which would have trashed my holiday plans.


Regards

Paul

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Paul, a number of moves away from Beccles were somewhat ‘enforced’ by the developer of the old Puddingmore site who was not prepared to have berth holders walking across his building site.

What I think is demonstrated here is that there appears to be little strategic thinking to response to the changing nature of boating activity. There is a considerable demand for moorings for small cruisers and yachts, say up to 27ft. These owners can and do make a valuable contribution to the local economy and in my opinion should be actively encouraged.  Unlike the larger boats they are more dependent on local supplies, but they are more comfortable on side on or pontoon moorings.  Rather than trying to suppress to creation of new moorings via the planning process the reverse should be the case.

Unless you want a sprawl of boats along the banks what is needed are new basins and cuts.  It would have been perfectly possible to incorporate this into the flood defence works but no attempt to do so appears to have been made. For Example had pontoons been establish on one bank of Langley and Hadley dykes combined with some soft landscaping private mooring on the lower Yare could have been doubled without visual intrusion.  Something very similar could be done downstream of Ludham and Wayford bridges.  With a bit of thought Beccles, Geldeston, Somerleyton, West Somerton, Hickling and Martham could all host more small craft with arguably improved visual appearance.  Yes it might need seed funding but at least this would be towards projects with a degree of long-term commercial viability.


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Bill

I am sure you will have seen my posting under "General Chat" and I have seen your links to the BA consultation documents. The framework for planning on the Broads is being rewritten and I am concerned that an opportunity is being taken to downplay the importance of boating and reduce the facilities available for it. The subtle changes in the purposes of the Broads Authority should ring alarm bells (where is the clamour for change?) and the strategy document does nothing to give navigation parity of importance alongside the other two purposes.

I think it is significant that the BA only started to develop a moorings strategy (nearly 30 years after they were formed to manage an area of major boating activity) after boating voices were raised to point out the consequences of the changes being made by the Flood Alleviation Project, which seems to have been designed with little concern for the needs of users of the navigation nor, as you say, with an eye for the opportunities to improve navigation facilities at the same time as mitigating flooding. No joined up thinking here. I will be interested to see what that strategy includes.

I know of riverside landowners who would love to develop basins for marina type moorings and who have the capital to do it. Up to now, BA planners have vetoed this kind of development. It would obviously not make sense to go beserk with marinas round every corner, but the trend towards fewer hire craft and more private ownership of boats which spend more time moored up, must suggest that it is sense to increase the number of moorings and to do it in a way that does not affect the frontages of the main rivers. That might take some of the pressure out of the popular spots and free up moorings for holidaymakers.

The current consultation on the Local Development Framework Core Strategy gives people an opportunity to make their views felt. BA are required to report every response they receive to DEFRA. Also, I would suggest that, if people are concerned about the stealthy changes to the purposes of the Broads Authority, they should let their MP know.

Phil

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Good points from both Bill and Phil. I certainly agree with your comments about moorings for small boats Bill, especially the encouragement of landowners who have the capital and desire to create them, as you say, as long as they are done in such a way as not to detract from the overall appearance of the immediate area.

Is it amiss of me Phil, to suggest that there are some at the BA who would welcome a reduction in boat numbers on the Broads, both hire and private or do you see this change in priority as being pushed onto them?

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