The Norfolk BroadsThe Norfolk Broads
Username Password
Norfolk Broads Weather

Mon, 11 Apr 2016 7:20 am BST- Light Rain
5 Day Forecast

Wind 2.0 mph @ 40°
48.0°F/8.89°C Humidity 93% Pressure 29.65 (S)

Welcome to The Norfolk Broads Forum
This is THE Worlds Largest Forum devoted to the Norfolk Broads, here you can discuss issues about the Norfolk Broads. Or just somewhere to chat with others interested in the Norfolk Broads area.

Please Help Support The Norfolk Broads Forum
OR

The Norfolk Broads Forum / Boatyards / Norfolk Broads Direct
login
join
Graphics Off
Search
Forum Members - Book your Hoseasons holiday today, Just call 0345 498 6296

This is a moderated forum Reply to this DiscussionReply to Discussion | Start new discussionNew Discussion << previous || next >> 
Posted By Discussion Topic: Norfolk Broads Direct

Similar Threads That Might Help :
Norfolk Broads Direct 2007| Norfolk Broads Direct| 'Flag' Deck Paint from Screwfix Direct - any good?| 'Flag' Deck Paint from Screwfix Direct - any good?| Book direct or through...|

book mark this topic Printer-friendly Version  send this discussion to a friend  new posts last

taylorgang
Mar-27-2007 @ 10:41 AM                           Permalink
reply
edit
profile
send p.m.
Forum Regular
Posts: 286
Joined: Aug 2006
taylorgang
          

Add To Ignore List
Has anyone been able to find a difference in price or service for booking a Herbert Woods or Fairline boat through Norfolk Broads Direct rather than Blakes? I have always booked through Blakes and only found out NBD existed when their brochure popped through the door last week. I would like the maximum amount of money to go to the boatyard rather than a booking agent but unfortunately have already used Blakes to book for this year. There is always next year but I do not want to be compromised on service or price.

kfurbank
Mar-27-2007 @ 11:35 AM                           Permalink
reply
edit
profile
send p.m.
Mardles sometimes
Posts: 4016
Joined: Nov 2004
kfurbank
          

Add To Ignore List
I maybe wrong, and I'm sure Bill will know the fuller picture, but as I understand it, if a yard is affiliated to Blakes or Hoseasons, even if they accept a booking direct, they still have to pay the agency a fee, because the boat is no longer available to them for hiring out. Which is why most yards will not do a discount on a direct booking because they still pay the agency fee regardless. Only the independants seem to be more open to doing deals.

Norfolk Broads Direct is the parent company of both Herbert Woods and Faircraft Loynes and I'm guessing the prices will be the same or very similar to booking through Blakes, as I'm sure they will still get their fee. A couple of seasons ago, Moores started Go Boating and booked these boats direct and with held them from the agency, whilst putting the other Moores boats through the agency. A row broke out and I believe that Moores ended up paying the agency for all the bookings taken direct on Go Boating boats as well.

So in summary I don't think there is much difference booking either way, only the independants seem to do real deals.

Keith

billmaxted
Mar-27-2007 @ 11:46 AM                           Permalink
reply
edit
profile
send p.m.
Mudplug Juggler
Posts: 8983
Joined: Mar 2005
billmaxted
          

Add To Ignore List
The thing Keith is that the per centage commission on owner produced business is less than on that generated through the agency.  In the case of Woods and Faircraft the parent company is the same hence Norfolk Direct.  The percentages are based on the Blakes or Hoseason prices so it is up to the yard as to whether they pass on some of the commission savings to the customer.  It may be they do at some times of year at not at others.  They may even be they do not do so at high season but discount by a sum larger than the commission saved at Low season.

Bill...  

WhisperingReeds
Mar-27-2007 @ 12:16 PM                           Permalink
reply
edit
profile
send p.m.
Forum Regular
Posts: 280
Joined: Sep 2006
WhisperingReeds
          

Add To Ignore List
Hi,

I can help a little with this one, without giving away any secrets Playful

Yup, we still pay the agency a fee, even if we take the booking direct.  The fee is a little bit smaller, it's done as a percentage of the cost of the holiday.  Realistically, the difference is quite small, but every little helps.

On the discounts point.  My boats are still my boats, even if they are booked through an agency.  I can charge what I want to for them, within reason, and indeed remove them from the availability should I need to get them in the shed at a particular time etc.  Obviously, if I suddenly discounted in a major way, well below what the agency were offering, and it hit the agency in the pocket, they aren't going to be best pleased.  At the same time though, a boat going out with a discount is far far better than the boat not going out at all.  Hence my early season discounts offered to the forum members here.  Oh, and as Bill alludes to, even the 10% discount is more than the difference on what I pay for making a booking direct.

Hope this helps a bit

Regards

John





www.whisperingreeds.net.
Up to 30% off holidays for Forum Members,and other special offers - Click Here.

kfurbank
Mar-27-2007 @ 12:44 PM                           Permalink
reply
edit
profile
send p.m.
Mardles sometimes
Posts: 4016
Joined: Nov 2004
kfurbank
          

Add To Ignore List
oops sorry John, for some reason I thought you were an independant. The last sentence in my last post was written, without any connection to the very real, very good offers you make to this forum.

Keith

Broads01
Mar-27-2007 @ 10:54 PM                           Permalink
reply
edit
profile
send p.m.
Lives to Post
Posts: 1386
Joined: Oct 2004
Broads01
          

Add To Ignore List
Very much depends on the individual boatyard I think. John's discounts at Whispering Reeds are superb of course. Not all yards are so generous, though I think Richardsons deserve a mention as they offer 10% discount on certain boats for direct bookings outside peak season - and their prices are already lower than most.

Many yards (Norfolk Broads Direct included) show the identical hire price in their own brochure as Blakes or Hoseasons do. What they do though is differentiate on extras like fuel & parking. I can remember more than once being offered a £25 fuel voucher by Norfolk Broads Direct, which isn't huge but still worthwhile.

Simon


Home Photo Gallery Days Afloat Contact Us
Chat Room Downloads Norfolk Broads @ Amazon Make My Logo
Shops & Businesses Members Gear Norfolk Broads @ EBay Holiday Calendar
Pub Guide Tide Tables SOS List Popular Threads
2017 Calendar Contest Make A Donation Links Hireboat Info
Norfolk Broads @ CafePress FAQ Broads Quiz Forum Events
Advertise With Us Forum Shop Boating Bits Stickys and FAQs Boating Bits Hirecraft List

 

 

 



Copyright © 2005 Y2KInternet, All Rights Reserved.