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aledsav1
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Greybeard...I totally agree, given everything, I think we were knowingly 'seen coming' and our naivety and trusting nature left us wide open to this sort of practice, and it is just such a pity we are not in the position to pursue them, as the 27000 we paid was everything we had, apart from the money we had allocated to moorings, insurance and some cosmetic work that we knew was needed, we have since spent another 500+ on solicitors advice, more money wasted, and now we have to do something asap as at the mooring we are at the next years payment starts end of December.

I have set up a 'GOFUNDME' fundraiser campaign to try and bring some money in to help us out, as half of myself and my partner wants to carry on with the boat and bring it back to good condition, but the other half of us has been so battered by this whole experience that we just want put it behind us.  

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After all the grief you have had you will never love that boat and you will continuously be reminded of others failings and the injustice of it all .

Far better to bite the bullet and shift it on , for your sanity if nothing else .

Fingers crossed you make a decision you are happy with.
(Only in my opinion of course )

Graham

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Both myself and my partner (Gemma) are pretty easy going and do not suffer greatly from lifes curve balls, but this has had me with sleepless nights just churning it over and tears on both our parts, and although the money side of things has had an impact as we have we have taken a big hit, we can sort of live with that, but what I am finding really difficult to accept is that we cannot hold them accountable for this and although I am not one who wants to dish out revenge, and much prefer to forgive, I have had some silly thoughts and would love to let go of the frustration I feel.

alan

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Nov-24-2021 @ 12:57 PM                           Permalink
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" finding really difficult to accept is that we cannot hold them accountable for this and although I am not one who wants to dish out revenge, and much prefer to forgive, I have had some silly thoughts and would love to let go of the frustration I feel."
I would go down the small claims Court route, It will cost you approx £400-450 and you will have to get quotes for the work that needs to be carried out, From what you say it sounds as though you have a reasonable case, but you can never tell. The difficulty is in proving they dissuaded you from having a survey carried out and linking that to them knowing a survey would in all probability kill the claim.
Your first step is to get quotes, download the form and make them aware of what you are intending to do and give them chance to pay or make a counter offer.
If you do file a claim, make it in a court convenient for you but as far away from the other party as you can.
https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/law-and-courts/legal-system/small...
Worth a read


if it is to be it is up to me.

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TT, your link doesn't work. This one should https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/law-and-courts/legal-system/small-claims/

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For the life of me, I don't see why the hull of a grp boat should collapse in on itself if it is lifted on a proper boat cradle, one with adequate bilge supports. I can see the problem if she's to be lifted with strops, even with adequate spreaders. Martham boats really would be my next port of call.

Dodgy yards, dodgy salespeople, yes, they do exist. One, in particular, I often see being praised on forums. Based on that praise, and following a phone enquiry, I went along to buy what turned out to be an aged, second-hand outboard. Cheeky sod wanted to charge me £200.00 more than would a well known, big Wroxham chandlers, one who subsequently sold me a brand new engine of the same make! I don't think that I have 'mug' tattooed on my forehead!

Jolly Roger

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Hi jolly

Not sure how martham can help as we have already established the boat can't get under the bridge. Perhaps they have a mobile facility but for a 42 foot boat that seems a bit unlikely.

Graham

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Terry

The small claims court is indeed an option and it may indeed work just by the initial claim however he has already been told by a qualified expert he only has a 50 /50 chance of winning if it gets to court  .

I do not share your confidence of the chance of success particularly as it is a very grey area and only one person's word against another of what was said .

However the initial claim providing it is for less than £10 K might just work before it gets to court  

Graham

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Yes cannot get to Martham, so all I am going on is that given the stringers have rotted (they provide support width wise) that it is not advisable to lift the boat, am not versed in different lifting options that can work around this.

small claims was an original route however we then went to a solicitor, and I really do not want to throw another 400+ into pursuing something that might not lead anywhere, given that a consumer law solicitor who is a litigator has advised we would only have a 50/50 chance of winning, I very much doubt small claims with out legal representation would fall in our favour, and again we would then have to cover their legal costs so another chunk of money we so badly need to repair the boat.

alan

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Alan, you do not need legal representation in the small claims court and they do not normally award legal costs either. My family have used their services 3 times and have won all three cases, even when up against the resident barrister of a well-known national coach company.

Andy

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