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Puddleduck
Oct-15-2021 @ 9:52 AM                           Permalink
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Clive has been mentioned a couple of times for a contact at Richardsons. I believe he is now running his own show at Horning Pleasurecraft.

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My two pennies worth is that looking back will do no good. Looking forward depends on whether you bought the boat because you loved it or because you thought you were getting a bargain.

If the former stay with it and treat the repairs as restoration budgeted over a few years .

If the latter get shot of it now even as a project if necessary. It will never bring you joy and you don't know what other gremlins you may find .

Don't think naming helps anybody as there are always two sides and a slanging match invariably follows.

Even for new boat owners the recognised advice couldn't be clearer . Get a survey unless you know the boat well or it comes with a written guarantee .

Boat ownership and saving money do not often appear together in the same sentence

Hope you manage to move forward successfully.

Graham  

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I believe he is now running his own show at Horning Pleasurecraft.

He is and there's been some changes with staff and from
what Iv'e heard, all to the good too.

The older I get...
The better I was....!!

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Ok, If not knowing which yards to trust or avoid.
then the best course of action would be not to trust any of 'em.

the downside to this is the bad practices of the yard in question get to continue selling cr*p to new boaters.
and the decent yards suffer the same distrust.

boatyards with a bad reputation have a choice, change practices  for the better, or lose custom and go under.

it might have been prudent to either,
insist on a survey,
a thorough inspection yourself before parting with the coin,
walk away and find another boat.
but hindsight is always 20/20.


my appearance is down to me, my attitude is down to you.

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Hi Greybeard

I agree a rating system or a trip advisor star system would be a good idea.

I only meant that an individual experience at a particular time is not always a representative view of a yard .

Graham

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I’m sorry for this predicament but atleast you’re alright, that’s the main.
There’s a few options which others have mentioned in their good posts. Perhaps remind the broker that they had given a verbal guarantee of no significant damage and you can then come to a agreement with the work to carry out. But it seems like he said, I’m just the middleman so no actual legal incumbent on him/them to check the boat over. Surely they would want to lift the floorboards to check wether a private sellers boat was going to sink on their patch or not. Perhaps they don’t and they never saw the perishing stringers so gave the guarantee in good faith.  But he still gave that guarantee nevertheless.
I’m with Graham/Ruby advice on selling the boat on as a project if  you’re not completely smitten with it or perhaps if you would enjoy the process of replacing the stringers and building it back up just how you like it..bespoken, shipwrights style!

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Thank you all for your replies.

The boatyard is not the one that instantly comes to mind for some(only know this after the boatyard I took it to for advice, asked if it was them).

And although I feel that I should name them given what I have experienced, I won't just yet.

I don't think they did this with complete intention (though my partner does) I think they have just been neglectful in their profession, the fact they told us the boat would have nothing seriously expensively wrong with it, and then when discovered it did, they do not have the decency to take any responsibility.

I am thinking of the legal aspect of the verbal advice/guidance and guarantee, though I know as a trader/broker they are not responsible, they are certainly responsible for misleading us about the boat's condition especially as we had been very clear of our financial position.

If we had the funds, we would plough another 10-15 thousand into it, but we don't, and the thought of selling it and taking 10 thousand loss is unthinkable.

So for now, we just have to wait to see what happens next.


alan

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Also, I would add that there may have been an additional invested interest for the yard selling it.

The owner had their new boat at the yard having a complete refit, this was to be ready within weeks and would then be going on the mooring (owners private) that the boat we bought was still moored at.

alan

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puddleduck pm sent

alan

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Sorry to hear of your misadventure and inadequate guidance from someone in which you placed your trust.
However, without the intention of being dismissive, unless you had paid for a full structural survey whereby floors were lifted, fixtures and fittings removed etc. etc. which would have no doubt cost you £1000's, it is unlikely these issues would have been discovered.
When I purchased my boat a couple of years ago I had a basic survey done and the boat was given a clean bill of health. A comment was included that the floor was a little "springy" outside the WC "which is not uncommon for boats of this construction".
After a few months, when I removed the beds as part of a refit that we had intended to do from the point of purchase, I found that much of the plywood floor was so rotten you could push a finger through it and upon removing the rotten floor I found as you have the supporting framework was in a very sorry state.
Fortunately, I am quite handy with my power tools and have managed to rectify 40 years of wrongs but it has meant that with the unforseen work required, covid, fuel shortages and the like we have still yet to put the boat to its intended use.
Oh well, Christmas and the New Year afloat beckon and we are looking forward to it!

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Ok instead of naming and shaming perhaps we could be more positive, I'll start the ball rolling..
Just bought a boat from the NYA they advised me to have a survey despite the fact it was a stock boat their attitude in my case was that the surveyor may find something we have missed and this like I  say was on a stock boat!!

L

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