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I am not trying to be confrontational when I say this and I have no ill feelings, but if anyone wishes to question me and the facts in this matter, I will happily bring his letter and the recording proving that he is a lying S......G
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Where are the moderators? Whilst I respect, understand and empathise with the OP's emotions re this matter, no public forum is ever the right place to discuss issues between two people involved in a contract.
I should add that I know none of the parties involved nor any of the previous posters to this thread.
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I have not read all the forum rules, but if there is the rule that I cannot comment negatively (though factually) on my experience with a boatyard and in particular the owner and their conduct, then I will happily accept that and not mention any more on the subject.
And the contract is with the boatyard a company and the owner of that company, and not between two private individuals, a company is in the public domain and does not have the same privacy rights as an private individual, otherwise google reviews would be awash with edits.
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This message was edited by aledsav1 on Oct-17-21 @ 6:11 PM
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Hi Alan
At the risk of sounding like a broken record I did suggest that naming and shaming inveriably ends up in a slanging match and does not end up with a good outcome for anyone.
Please accept I am only trying to help and prevent you from ruining your first experience of boating so that it becomes your last.
From your first post about mooring problems it is clear you rushed into the boat purchase with great enthusiasm but not much research.
I strongly suggest you take a step back as you have clearly been sold a dud and no amount of fettling will bring it to a state you love.
From many years of experience I can tell you that boats are either maintained well or they are bodged. If you have evidence that something on your boat has been bodged and repaired badly it is very likely that will be true of all aspects of the boat. Windows, Hull and deck, engine, water, heating.
The work to sort out all the bodging is disproportionately high and incredibly stressful and is sometimes impossible to resolve.
Your boat is likely to be over 40 years old with a working life expectancy of 20 years. Convert that to a 40 year old car. How likely is that a car from the 1970s will be usable and not have big issues.
Even at this late stage it is not too late to get a proper survey to give you the assurance it is worth proceeding to put right the known and unknown faults.
Neither paladine or I are judging but making the point there is two sides to every story and the forum is not a good place to try and resolve what are evidently personal issues.
My biggest fear is you become obsessed to the point where reason goes out of the window and you pour more and more money (including solicitors fees) and effort into righting a perceived wrong.
In my limited experience your chance of successfully claiming the broker has a responsibility to you as purchaser is very poor.
I sincerely hope you are able to move on successfully
Graham
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@ruby,,
in a small effort to lighten the mood I would add most cars in the '70,s as I recall junk and rustbuckets right off the production line,,[when it was actually running] 
what would you [anybody] consider to be the "austin allegro" of the boating world?
my appearance is down to me, my attitude is down to you.
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I will not be continuing this topic as i did not set out for it to deteriorate into this, and should have stuck with my initial silence on the company and also heeded advice along the same lines.
Thank you for your advice on my continuing to pursue the trader, however I am not willing to accept what has taken place and shall be seeing a lawyer.
With regards to going into this, yes we were hasty in hindsight and did not do enough research, though what we did was speak to a long term boat owner that we know and we spoke to Clive at richardsons who’s family members we know in addition to doing hours of googling, however we missed some essential elements and probably went into to much detail on aspects of buying and owning a boat that were not of immediate importance.
Our intention is to go forward with the boat, we want to and we cannot afford to sell on as a project and lose what for us would be a considerable amount of money.
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Alan. I admire your persistence but I do advocate caution. I note that you feel that you can't afford to lose your initial purchase price. In life it is sometimes prudent to cut your losses. Effectively you now have a project boat, one which many of us would regard as an evergrowing hole in a pocket. I note that Martham Boats are advertising shed and hard standing but that will become a standing cost, one that could persist for a year or two. You will need to dry out your hull before new floors and stringers can be successfully bonded to the old hull. £5000.00 is not going to go far.
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On further advice today from a much-trusted yard, we can not continue with the boat, however, he has said we will lose so much, that selling it is not an option, as it would be £17000+ which is pretty much 2/3rds of what we paid for it. Our only option is to now put all of our resources and energy into pursuing this legally, given everything we have regarding this (and we have spoken to several boat-related people and professionals in other walks) we feel, and are being advised that we should pursue it. So next step is a specialist consumer law/rights solicitor.
alan
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Sorry to read about your misfortune , I hope it stands as a warning to others to always have a survey when purchasing a boat .
Legal recourse may seem to you now as the only way forward , and as the amount involved is greater than the £10k limit of the small claims court , any legal action can and will very quickly run up high costs.
As this is now going to end up in litigation IMHO it would be prudent for the thread to be hidden/removed so as to avoid any further speculation and possible repercussions
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Good luck!
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