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Very sorry to hear of your experiences. It would be useful to know which boatyard you bought your boat from and which you are now speaking to. However, it might not be prudent to answer on the open forum, so please PM me. I have just sold my boat after nearly 40 year of boat ownership, so I may be able to offer some advice on specific points if you care to ask. There are also many on the forum who are far more experienced than me. Hope you can get sorted.
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I suspect that a few of us could make an educated guess as to which yard and also as to the type of boat. Perhaps we should keep it to a guess though!
Looking ahead I suspect that it all boils down to budget and whether the boat is worth an expensive yard bill, whether it is worth throwing money at. I also suspect that next summer's boating will be taken up by rebuilding work. Our forum friend is now in an unpleasant corner, personally I'd try and offload the boat before the bills come rolling in despite a probable loss.
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Name and Shame.
then at least others new to the game would know who to avoid.
hitting those new to boat ownership with unrealistic quotes and bills leaves a bad taste in the mouth and gives a bad impression for all of the yards as the new purchasers don't have any previous knowledge of who to avoid.
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Clive has been mentioned a couple of times for a contact at Richardsons. I believe he is now running his own show at Horning Pleasurecraft.
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My two pennies worth is that looking back will do no good. Looking forward depends on whether you bought the boat because you loved it or because you thought you were getting a bargain.
If the former stay with it and treat the repairs as restoration budgeted over a few years .
If the latter get shot of it now even as a project if necessary. It will never bring you joy and you don't know what other gremlins you may find .
Don't think naming helps anybody as there are always two sides and a slanging match invariably follows.
Even for new boat owners the recognised advice couldn't be clearer . Get a survey unless you know the boat well or it comes with a written guarantee .
Boat ownership and saving money do not often appear together in the same sentence
Hope you manage to move forward successfully.
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I believe he is now running his own show at Horning Pleasurecraft.
He is and there's been some changes with staff and from
what Iv'e heard, all to the good too.
The older I get...
The better I was....!!
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Ok, If not knowing which yards to trust or avoid.
then the best course of action would be not to trust any of 'em.
the downside to this is the bad practices of the yard in question get to continue selling cr*p to new boaters.
and the decent yards suffer the same distrust.
boatyards with a bad reputation have a choice, change practices for the better, or lose custom and go under.
it might have been prudent to either,
insist on a survey,
a thorough inspection yourself before parting with the coin,
walk away and find another boat.
but hindsight is always 20/20.
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This message was edited by Greybeard on Oct-15-21 @ 11:13 AM
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Hi Greybeard
I agree a rating system or a trip advisor star system would be a good idea.
I only meant that an individual experience at a particular time is not always a representative view of a yard .
Graham
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I’m sorry for this predicament but atleast you’re alright, that’s the main.
There’s a few options which others have mentioned in their good posts. Perhaps remind the broker that they had given a verbal guarantee of no significant damage and you can then come to a agreement with the work to carry out. But it seems like he said, I’m just the middleman so no actual legal incumbent on him/them to check the boat over. Surely they would want to lift the floorboards to check wether a private sellers boat was going to sink on their patch or not. Perhaps they don’t and they never saw the perishing stringers so gave the guarantee in good faith. But he still gave that guarantee nevertheless.
I’m with Graham/Ruby advice on selling the boat on as a project if you’re not completely smitten with it or perhaps if you would enjoy the process of replacing the stringers and building it back up just how you like it..bespoken, shipwrights style!
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Thank you all for your replies.
The boatyard is not the one that instantly comes to mind for some(only know this after the boatyard I took it to for advice, asked if it was them).
And although I feel that I should name them given what I have experienced, I won't just yet.
I don't think they did this with complete intention (though my partner does) I think they have just been neglectful in their profession, the fact they told us the boat would have nothing seriously expensively wrong with it, and then when discovered it did, they do not have the decency to take any responsibility.
I am thinking of the legal aspect of the verbal advice/guidance and guarantee, though I know as a trader/broker they are not responsible, they are certainly responsible for misleading us about the boat's condition especially as we had been very clear of our financial position.
If we had the funds, we would plough another 10-15 thousand into it, but we don't, and the thought of selling it and taking 10 thousand loss is unthinkable.
So for now, we just have to wait to see what happens next.
alan
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Also, I would add that there may have been an additional invested interest for the yard selling it.
The owner had their new boat at the yard having a complete refit, this was to be ready within weeks and would then be going on the mooring (owners private) that the boat we bought was still moored at.
alan
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