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Yes as appears from the replies that survey or not I would have found myself in the same situation, so therefore it is just down to the boatyards salesmans pitch and ‘guarantee’ that nothing expensive would be wrong with the boat, which I suppose is our naivety in trusting a professional in this field not to mislead us, especially after being very clear that our financial situation was not one where we could afford to buy something that needed expensive repairs.
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Are we talking a Wild's 'Bahama' by any chance? 43 feet long if I remember correctly. Famously prone to rotting floors and stringers, as well as the lower ends of the bulkheads which tend to sop up the bilge water. I would have expected that any experienced Broads yard would be well aware of this problem, one which stems from the flat and shallow bilges where there is a tendency for bilge water to accumulate and lay there.
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It is a Harvey Eastwood ‘Broadminded’
Have to add to the story, the original bill of sale I received was not signed by the owner nor witnessed, I did chase up a signed etc bill before all this came to light, and have since mentioned it during the last conversation with the yard owner, which was many weeks ago now, as I am not the best at staying composed when strong emotions are at play, so am avoiding contact in order to not escalate matters beyond civil to criminal.
Needless to say I have no bill of sale and therefore a boat that is not registered to us, I don’t know the legalities of that?
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Insult has now been added to injury as the owner of the boatyard has now lied in a written reply to a letter we sent him.
so I am now naming them, I can accept negligence and mistakes, but now that he has fabricated events that did and did not take place, it is clear that the guy is morally corrupt and therefore leads me to believe that he has no moral compass in his business dealing.
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One good thing is he has lied in a reply letter 'that he has no concerns with the structural integrity of the boat and lifting it'
However I have a recording of a phone call where he says 'he would not be happy to lift the boat until some work had been carried out to make it structurally stronger'
Dealing with a complete lair
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Is Marine Transmissions a boatyard as such?
Harvey Eastward boats were normally very well built.
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Harvey Eastward did, like a lot of us in the industry, buy-in hulls from Wilds etc. Perhaps the boat in question is one of these? My comments re flat and shallow bilges still stand.
http://norfolk.broads.org.uk/wiki2018/index.php?title=Boat_Photograph&photo=j6_6656&BoatId=4340&BoatHistory=6656
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well when I visited them they had 2 boats out of the water (inside) being completely refitted, so I do not know if that classifies as a boatyard (still novice) but they have sold me a boat and are working on boats.
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Yes Jolly its pretty similar to that, having removed some flooring, the fiberglass is flat until the center where it drops to create the bilge though i wouldn't say it was shallow, it is about maybe 2 foot deep though not so wide, there are a couple of slight channels on the flatter surfaces but only an inch or two deep and wide
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A quick google reveals only information concerning marine engines and their repair, nothing about boat sales, or brokerage, moorings etc? haven't even got a website.
https://www.boatsandwatersportswebsite.co.uk/item/toby-cox-marine-services/
head honcho is toby cox,, apparently.
something not quite right about this whole scenario,
and no bill of sale given,, even after request?
very odd way to operate a business.
this also came up,http://the-norfolk-broads.co.uk/printthread.cfm?Forum=38&Topic=34019, scroll down the page and our very own paladine has met the fellow in question, perhaps he could assist in some way?
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I have a bill of sale, just not signed by owner and witnessed, and nothing after requesting a proper one, but yes after today's reveal of them lying on paper about our interactions ( I was extremely angry) and me digging out the recording of what he actually said at the time(the opposite), they are a shoddy outfit.
But they are a business and have customers, regrettably me being one of them.
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