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TerryTibbs
Oct-15-2021 @ 8:29 AM                           Permalink
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I would take legal advice but I'm afraid you will be told the same "caveat emptor" it is the buyers responsibility to check condition, buyer beware!
I don't know which boatyard you bought through but talking to the owner/M.D. may have an effect but I doubt it.
What boat is it that you have?

Dave

if it is to be it is up to me.

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I feel really sorry for you on this one. I Will say that there is one particular boatyard that I wouldn't touch with a proverbial barge pole but that doesn't help you.

We are going through funny old times and people have been unduly desperate to buy a boat and consequently, some rough old ones have been offloaded and sometimes at grossly inflated prices.

I am a bit surprised at the prices that you have been quoted for slipping, perhaps you were being tactically dissuaded from having a survey.

Mind you, a survey afloat was not impossible, e.g. asking a boatyard to go through her, if nothing else lifting the floorboards. Any creditable, experienced boatyard will know the likely problems associated with various types of boats and will know where to look.

Still, that doesn't help you now. To add to your problems most boatyards will by now have their winter schedules taken up and won't want to take on any extra work.

In your position, I would approach both Richardsons and Martham Boats, the latter dependent on whether your boat will pass under Potter Heigham Bridge. Both are well able to deal with sad boats.

I don't envy you your situation. At forty pounds plus an hour a thorough refurb is going to be expensive.

It's all very well being wise after the event, what to do now? Richardsons, maybe ask to speak to Clive, would be my next port of call.



  

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Very sorry to hear of your experiences. It would be useful to know which boatyard you bought your boat from and which you are now speaking to. However, it might not be prudent to answer on the open forum, so please PM me.  I have just sold my boat after nearly 40 year of boat ownership, so I may be able to offer some advice on specific points if you care to ask. There are also many on the forum who are far more experienced than me.  Hope you can get sorted.

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I suspect that a few of us could make an educated guess as to which yard and also as to the type of boat. Perhaps we should keep it to a guess though!

Looking ahead I suspect that it all boils down to budget and whether the boat is worth an expensive yard bill, whether it is worth throwing money at.  I also suspect that next summer's boating will be taken up by rebuilding work. Our forum friend is now in an unpleasant corner, personally I'd try and offload the boat before the bills come rolling in despite a probable loss.

Jolly Roger

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Name and Shame.
then at least others new to the game would know who to avoid.

hitting those new to boat ownership with unrealistic quotes and bills leaves a bad taste in the mouth and gives a bad impression for all of the yards as the new purchasers don't have any previous knowledge of who to avoid.



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Clive has been mentioned a couple of times for a contact at Richardsons. I believe he is now running his own show at Horning Pleasurecraft.

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My two pennies worth is that looking back will do no good. Looking forward depends on whether you bought the boat because you loved it or because you thought you were getting a bargain.

If the former stay with it and treat the repairs as restoration budgeted over a few years .

If the latter get shot of it now even as a project if necessary. It will never bring you joy and you don't know what other gremlins you may find .

Don't think naming helps anybody as there are always two sides and a slanging match invariably follows.

Even for new boat owners the recognised advice couldn't be clearer . Get a survey unless you know the boat well or it comes with a written guarantee .

Boat ownership and saving money do not often appear together in the same sentence

Hope you manage to move forward successfully.

Graham  

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I believe he is now running his own show at Horning Pleasurecraft.

He is and there's been some changes with staff and from
what Iv'e heard, all to the good too.

The older I get...
The better I was....!!

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Ok, If not knowing which yards to trust or avoid.
then the best course of action would be not to trust any of 'em.

the downside to this is the bad practices of the yard in question get to continue selling cr*p to new boaters.
and the decent yards suffer the same distrust.

boatyards with a bad reputation have a choice, change practices  for the better, or lose custom and go under.

it might have been prudent to either,
insist on a survey,
a thorough inspection yourself before parting with the coin,
walk away and find another boat.
but hindsight is always 20/20.


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Hi Greybeard

I agree a rating system or a trip advisor star system would be a good idea.

I only meant that an individual experience at a particular time is not always a representative view of a yard .

Graham

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I’m sorry for this predicament but atleast you’re alright, that’s the main.
There’s a few options which others have mentioned in their good posts. Perhaps remind the broker that they had given a verbal guarantee of no significant damage and you can then come to a agreement with the work to carry out. But it seems like he said, I’m just the middleman so no actual legal incumbent on him/them to check the boat over. Surely they would want to lift the floorboards to check wether a private sellers boat was going to sink on their patch or not. Perhaps they don’t and they never saw the perishing stringers so gave the guarantee in good faith.  But he still gave that guarantee nevertheless.
I’m with Graham/Ruby advice on selling the boat on as a project if  you’re not completely smitten with it or perhaps if you would enjoy the process of replacing the stringers and building it back up just how you like it..bespoken, shipwrights style!

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