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I have always hired direct from Pacific Cruisers at Loddon. Find them at www.norfolkbroads.com/pacificcruisers. A family run boatyard built up by Tonay and Valerie Clarke in the 1980's now in the hands of Fiona and Richard Husband.

A modest fleet of mostly older boats but well maintained and reliable and avbailable without the 20% surcharge levied by Hoseasons and Blakes.

Whilst on the subject must say I agree with other postings, don't blame Hoseasons and Blakes for the downturn in holiday rents on the Broads. UK Holiday costs in all areas, hotels other self catering have increased out of proportion over the last twenty years. They do add to the cost but make choosing and booking a boat easy and put the product on the international market. What we need is an association of independant boatyard owners / operators again, but those who remember the A flag on Blakes boats will know this is how they started. At least then you would have the choice of which way to book.

So ends the lesson according to the Boatster.

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Very valid point...

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Very nice to have you aboard not sure how to respond to to your posting I know how I would like to but not the way of this site I'm afraid. Not however quite what you think !

No slur against r & f who are good nieghbours just your comments about the major B&H who ............

Bill no tag not funny.

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Hi Boatboy

The Pacific Boats always look like great value to me and also look quite well presented whenever I see them.

I know a lot of people on here give Blakes & Hoseasons a hard time on here for charging a lot for what they do, if this is extended to blaming them for a downtown in business then I would join you in saying this is complete nonsense!  With advances in the internet etc of late there are now definately more ways to 'get out there' for smaller companies that there were not ten years back when these companies were perhaps more crucial than they are today, but I actually think the organisations bring a lot of professionalism to the industry, although I have a higher opinion of one than the other.

On the subject of Pacific, it's a shame their web page and brochure includes no external illustrations...another thing that with the internet, digital cameras etc is soooooo easy to do, and increases customer confidence to book, and boookings but only a few firms have latched onto.  Wasn't there another fleet in Loddon that I could say the same on???!!  Playful

Ok, and there ends my lesson for today too!

Dan

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Whoops, meant to say no INTERNAL pictures.

Must take more water with it from now on!

Dan

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Dan such things cost a lot of money if you are earning less than £75 per boat per week. Maybe once Paul and I have got it sussed, we might be able to help the little guys but please willingly praise them for what they do and privately help them through a personal e-mail if you have advice to offer.

I know you knew what you were doing, dear, but you still hit the other boat! Bill...

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Hi Bill

At a bit of a loss as to quite what you mean.  Like I say I hold Pacific in high regard - boats are good value and well maintained.  Cannot see why having one or two internal pictures and one external picture would cost a lot of money, or any money in fact.  Can you enlighten me, slightly confused!

All the best

Dan

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Sorry Dan but it depends how you are set up, any change can cost a lot of money or time and effort. That's why a lot of us could never afford to update. I would like to think that we will be able to change things but recognise that some are locked into existing arrangements It's the boats what count not the pictures of them. They have bust a gut since they took over from Tony & Val and if their site does not show interiors so what?

Bill

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Ok, final word on this....

you ask so what, the so what is I can't book with them because they do not give me enough to go on for what I need to make a balanced decision, so would be more of a gamble.

Fortunately, for myself I know their boats firsthand, but if I didn't, which many wouldn't then the above would be true and they could 'lose' a booking elsewhere or outside of the industry.

I am sensing you do not appreciate a fresh, or new view on the subject so will not push things further but may I assure you I understand the hardships and difficulties small businesses face, especially in the hireboat industry which is one of the hardest and lowest profit industries I have ever worked with.  I hope you can interpret my comments in the way they are intended which is as a positive suggestion, not a direcct critiscm.

Cheers

Dan

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Agree entirley, though I don't think Dan meant any offence. If Bill's beloved Blakes (excuse me Bill, sarcasm is my medium!) can't manage interiors of most boats (I know Hoseasons do show some interiors now) I don't think we should criticise small independants for the omission.





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